Spielberg & Kushner's Munich '72 / Israeli vengeance film

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Could be Eric Bana's first good film since "Chopper"?

Amistad was garbage. Fuck movies where Matthew McCannaughy plays the conquering white hero.

Dream on.

I was really affected by the movie, particularly the retelling of the voyage over to America, but Matthew McNakedbongo was rather blatantly the hero; saying otherwise is madness.

I cannot sing "Anything Goes" in Mandarin.

milo, I haven't seen In America yet, do you recommend?

Hounsou, by turns, is scary/saintly black man in In America. Fortunately, even sanctifying "E.T." in that film wouldn't earn Jim Sheridan the ravenous hatred Spielberg inspires.

McConaughey gave a creditable perf in Amistad, and no big-budget studio film was going to have most of its dialogue in African dialect.

Does it ever occur to you when multiple people are all disagreeing with you on the same exact point, it's not because they're morons or idiots or uncultured or enjoy only popcorn cinema (WHICH IS REALLY REALLY AN ODD INSULT COMING FROM A SPIELBERG FAN) or that they are Spike Lee (??? is there some massive feud between Lee and Spielberg that makes this comment anything less than nonsense, btw?), but it's because, like, what you're saying doesn't make very good sense?

It is very clear that Djimon Honsou is not the hero of Amistad, he really isn't the protagonist, unless by hero you "heroic figure of some type who triumphed over severe adversity," ie like the way someone might say something like "Firemen are all heroes," in which case, yes, he was a hero in Amistad. But if that is the usage you are using, maybe you should consider the fact that the rest of us are using the traditional hero-as-protagonist/main-character sort of way. The way most people do, when they discuss films.

The ravenous hatred of Spielberg is your usual hyperbolic strawman. Nobody hates Spielberg, we just wish he made better movies. Indiana Jones IV? I'm there. The Terminal 2? Fuck you.

am slightly mystified by this comment. do you mean the platoon in 'SPR' was too white? cos that's kind of how it went down, segregation-wise.

>will this be another SPR? The appearance of being a hard-hitting, morally-complicated adult movie that turns into a jingoistic afternoon serial? <

SPR ain't perfect -- I'd heave this Williams score, among others -- but how the fuck is it jingoistic, when it raises morality-on-the-battlefield questions in the middle of The Good War? Cuz it opens and closes with shots of the Stars and Stripes, looking rather washed out with the sun behind it?

How does the latter contradict the former (at ALL)? I'd heave the entirity of SPR. Bad music, poor editing, poorer acting, hamfisted plot, tons of NATIONALIST RAH RAH stuff (and a handy-dandy LOOK DAS GERMANS ARE EVIL scenes to boot.) There are Spielberg films I can tolerate, but his "serious" films are without fail predominantly garbage. They aren't even fun.

as for 'i need more moral ambiguity with my nazis' -- why?

(wait, Alex doesn't like John Ford either, right?)

Ed Burns is rather evil as well.

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