xpost yeah no, I know you wouldn't have an issue with that, I have no fucking clue what Andy is on about.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
ok NOW you're stretching
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
What about a FUBU shirt?
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
maybe you should have compared blacking up with dressing up as a ghost, and it would have made it more clear.
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Jesus god, Dan & Ally Oll Korrect here.
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
You haven't explained how a kid dressing up as his favorite athlete is racism in any way, still. Besides making a really tenuous complete-lack-of-perspective comparison to actual racists pretending to be blacks and doing minstrel shows. Which, like I said, is kind of a disservice to any kind of civil rights/anti-racism cause. This is the kind of bullshit that gets people mired into ridiculous arguments because, you know what, no, most Americans would not find a kid doing this inexcusable. He's NOT dressed up as Hitler. He's NOT dressed up as, say, OJ Simpson.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Haha I am Duran Duran.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
if you draw this conclusion from a kid who dressed up as a sports person who happens to be black. then perhaps YOU are the one who is stereotyping???
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
It's on the same level as when my high-school cafeteria, to celebrate Black History Month, served fried chicken and greens.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
we aren't talking about some fucking douchebag with shoe polish on his face and bright red lipstick and white out around his eyes waving around a bucket of goddamn chicken, you're talking about a kid, probably under the age of 12, wearing a basketball jersey and some darker-colored foundation! You don't see at all how the reaction this is garnering from a couple of you is a little off?
Like I said, I can understand being like wtf, or saying something to the kid like "Some people might find that offensive," I mean I really wouldn't want my kid doing that just because of that, but this level of outrage? Comparing it to Hitler and rape? Jesus christ.
I gotta say, ken OTM.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.papalazarou.co.uk/pd/images/postcard3.jpg
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
wtf?
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Reeves & Mortimer blacking up to play Otis Redding and Marvin Gaye with Geordie accents, WAS deemed offensive by some though (they then had to do the act minus paint).
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.manmademultimedia.com/magazine/news/ent/2004/2/All_Star.jpgs/Ben_Wallace.jpg
I mean how do you wear a Ben Wallace costume without at least doing the hair--which was already labelled as being "uncomfortable" when white people don the 'fro wigs. WTF, I mean a kid walking around with just a Ben Wallace jersey on and nothing else to signify, "I am Ben Wallace," that's a lame ass costume. I wouldn't give that kid a 3 Musketeers, that's for sure.
I mean, I'm not saying that he should've necessarily gone the whole hog with it (I mean I am the person who already said WTF, Ben Wallace?) but I mean how do the two of you recommend someone do a Ben Wallace costume without putting on ANYTHING that might be offensive to you?
Or do white people have to dress as white people, blacks as blacks, men as men, women as women, etc etc etc? I don't see anything wrong with a totally innocent Halloween costume.
xpost no one is pretending anything, we're telling you you are overreacting HARDCORE.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
the point SHOULD be that we are all people and therefore should get treated the same.
which can be used to excuse a lot of foul, racist shit
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Can I echo that?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
This I can understand more than the Halloween costume thing...I mean why not just hire black comedians? Saturday Night Live does this as well and I'm not that fond of it, especially since the guy they always "black up" is such an awful unfunny douchebag whose impressions are all crap. I mean seriously just hire some more black comedians, people.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― sfxxxx, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
there have never been that many good ones in the UK [/'racist']
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
i can
― sfxxx, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost no I mean that one dude, the one who sometimes does Bill Clinton, who is that guy? Whatever he is, he's crap.
xxpost ETHAN NO ONE IS SAYING THAT, WE'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE OVERREACTING, IS THIS QUESTIONABLE? YES. IS THIS "INEXCUSABLE"? NO, IT'S A KID DRESSING UP AS HIS HERO. SHOULD HIS PARENTS HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? PROBABLY, THEY SHOULD'VE ASKED HIM TO NOT DRESS UP AS BEN WALLACE. THE CONCLUSIONS YOU ARE DRAWING FROM THIS EVENT AND PEOPLE SAYING "LISTEN IT'S NOT AS BAD AS THAT" ARE REALLY KIND OF CRAZY. ALSO YOU ARE WHITE. ALSO YOU ARE TEAMING UP WITH A DUDE WHO IS BOTHERED BY PEOPLE WHO WEAR NEGRO LEAGUE HATS AND AFROS ON HALLOWEEN WHICH KIND OF PROBABLY MAKES YOUR ARGUMENT LOOK MORE CRAP.
posted in caps cos I don't think you are getting it that we're just saying "You are overreacting."
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost i am not "teaming up" with dude, but i agree about afro wigs on halloween as stated above
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
if there weren't a protest, you probably didn't know about it?
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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http://xanga.projectblogsphere.com/images/video-southParkMrJefferson.jpg
― jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link