The island wanted LOST SEASON SIX THREAD to happen (***CLICK CAREFULLY -- CONTAINS SPOILERS***)

There is absolutely no question that Locke is Esau in the last ep. At the v end Jacob says "you found your loophole" which pretty much makes it a certainty.

Indeed

sup frackles

plus you know...the small issue of the entire plot of that story arc in the finale being that locke was being controlled by dude in black because he wanted to find a way to kill jacob...

jacob didnt seem too worried about anything

yeah esau seemed more worried about the people coming than jacob did about getting stabbed

He wove his own kevlar vest one thread at a time

yeah jacob was super-relaxed...i bet he was still smiling beatifically even after locke threw him onto the fire

well, he was all "i'll be right here" when the guy said he'd find a way to kill him. kinda fits in with the whole "help me" thing of Jacob being trapped in the cabin or on the island (even if apparently that may have been the other guy all along, i guess).

Yeah, I was wondering that too. Also why MIB had no idea where Jacob might be, I thought that was strange that he didn't know and had to be led there.

Well he couldn't have said if he knew as how would Locke have known?

if i was esau i would've had some of jacob's fish you know. looked pretty good. "i just ate" - oh what you ate better than stone cooked fish on a leaf okay

human souls are probably tastier to egyptian aliens than fish.

xxp though i don't really get why he didn't just kill jacob himself instead of talking ben into it?

Well he couldn't have said if he knew as how would Locke have known?

Well, he's MIB with Locke's memories. And I was thinking that there was a point to Jacob's "When you do I'll be right here". Pretty minor point though. The 'I just ate' line will be referenced again, I betcha. I think MIB eats bowls of iron filings for breakfast.

No I mean more like...wouldn't they have got suspicious maybe if he knew stuff that Locke couldn't have known, like Jacob's whereabouts?

xxp though i don't really get why he didn't just kill jacob himself instead of talking ben into it?

yeah not sure...is this the "loophole"?

though i don't really get why he didn't just kill jacob himself instead of talking ben into it?

Maybe he needed a real live human to do it?

I still think it's more likely that Locke is possessed, or there's part of him in there as well as the dude in black. I don't think the writers would wipe him out completely and then leave his spirit form wandering around for ages.

The other flaw in the Long Con argument was that it depended on Ben, Jack, Ellie and the woman in the butcher's shop bringing Locke's body back in the correct way. We don't yet know what prompted Ben to take that course of action though.

the white flash reset everything so Locke is still alive but wheelchair-bound. So now there are three Lockes?

yeah possibly possessed...but then the dead body thing seems a pretty explicit way of saying "there's locke and here's this complete imposter". but yeah it would be weird if the real locke was just gone now for the entire rest of the show...

No I mean more like...wouldn't they have got suspicious maybe if he knew stuff that Locke couldn't have known, like Jacob's whereabouts?

Oh man, of course, you're right. Though he did charge around acting like he knew all sorts of things because 'the island told me', so what he's professing to know is pretty inconsistent.

The other flaw in the Long Con argument was that it depended on Ben, Jack, Ellie and the woman in the butcher's shop bringing Locke's body back in the correct way. We don't yet know what prompted Ben to take that course of action though.

Yeah, this kind of depends on who Ben/the Others were actually taking orders from - Ben says that he has to get Locke back there, and Widmore is very keen on getting Locke back there as well, which makes me wonder if MIB was ordering people around from the cabin as Jacob. But it is a pretty big hole.

xpost yeah if he'd really done his homework on locke he could have ranted on about anything!

Wasn't Ben only interested in Locke being on the plane to match the conditions of the flight as closely as possible (since he is really only interested in getting back)?

In his butcher shop conversation he makes it sound like it's a big deal that Locke be returned intact.

I love since he's a compulsive liar he's the character most free of continuity problems.

ha! half the characters on the show are compulsive liars!

w/r/t to Locke's body - dead characters wandering around the island have to have their bodies on island (i'm not sure whether they actually have to have died there): Remi, Christian, Alex. So if Locke's body is off-island, no dead Locke to possess.

I love the long con deception layers - there's no holy "island" consciousness that Ben, Widmore and Locke all believe in, but actually Jacob and Esau - the same way the "others" are Ben and Widmore duking it out (the original S1 others vs. S4 invaders).

kind of hate that because the show becomes

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it was a chess game all along

ok so I put an image between those two lines and it isnt showing up but just imagine a boot stamping on an island's face

forever

yeah it's funny how the implied big bad or most ominous/mysterious character has shifted over and over through the course of the show -- Ethan then Mr. Friendly then Ben then Richard then Widmore then Jacob then Jacob's enemy and so on.

u forgot the most hated character

michelle rodriguez

yo man, that is uncool

nah she was my most hated i think!

I thought "the Sheriff" was pretty ominous/mysterious too but hey then they forgot about her along with everything else :(

What would be really awesome would be if the next/final Locke flashback was what happened to him immediately after the Ajira Airlines flight crashed on the Island.

i like the idea that there could be thanks to the jughead reset a 3rd locke still in a wheelchair actually...maybe it's HIS destiny to save everyone.

btw guys you realize season 6 is only THIRTEEN FUCKING DAYS AWAY!??!!!

3rd locke's destiny is to save everyone from 2nd locke

it's a good time for TV - dollhouse is almost over, but Burn Notice is back tomorrow and Damages is back next week... THEN i can go into full HYPE!!! mode for Lost

the next locke flashback should be him inexplicably working at a taco stand

I'm fuckin hungry

k thank god the rain hasn't driven the taco truck away

What would be really awesome would be if the next/final Locke flashback was what happened to him immediately after the Ajira Airlines flight crashed on the Island.

erm...his corpse shifted an inch in the box???

after it lands on the taco stand obvs.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TACO I CAN'T MAKE

Damages is back soon? This is brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1D-cuc8OTI

guys I wanna do a "LOST character who you are most anxious to find out what the hell their deal is in season six" poll thread, any suggestions?

this is a list i came up w/ of people i feel like still have nagging questions hanging over them, kinda wanna keep the options limited since there are so many Jack/Kate/etc. type characters who there's nothing left to wonder about anymore:

Charles Widmore
Christian Shepherd
Claire
Desmond
Eloise Hawking
Hurley
Ilana
Jacob
Jacob’s enemy
John Locke
Libby
Richard Alpert
Walt