― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
WAR is PEACE.FREEDOM is SLAVERY.IGNORANCE is STRENGTH.
― nader (nader), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― nader (nader), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
so, what? a military plane hit it instead, then the feds came and cleared up all the camera-stuff (someone somewhere must have footage zapruder style that 'they' haven't nabbed) but what for? to what end?
am i missing the big pic-shure here?
― piscesboy, Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link
That's what the filmmaker's saying.
Do I smell smoke?
― nader (nader), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I watched a conspiracy program on this the other night. I was interested in what the theorists had to say, until they started claiming it was Mossad, and part of a Jewish conspiracy. Then it sounded too much like something I'd heard before.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, but the fact that there are thousands of eyewitness accounts doesn't really seem to matter..
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway yeah i *understand* the distinction between the two types of plane!!! but why would they want us to *say* that 'good gravy the capitol's under attack too!' if it weren't? - why?! get specific here.
― piscesboy, Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
is your aunt secretly an illuminati/lizardmen agent?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Spoonfeeding will begin at 12 o'clock sharp.
Don't miss it.
― nader (nader), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Let's be clear - I'm not espousing this theory, I'm simply trying peel away at its layers.
IF WTC and Pentagon attacked, THEN war.IF war, THEN more war on the basis of "terror" legitimacy.IF more war on terror, THEN pick a spot in the Middle East so as to distance your nation from Saudi Arabia, but not so far as to lose influence (and/or oil).
All war, all the time makes it difficult for voters to legitimize "changing horses in mid-stream" - unless of course your horse wages war irresponsibly. But even if that horse is an ass, let that horse remind you repeatedly that - regardless of his innumerable gaffes - that he's the only horse that can carry you to safety. Please note, neither I nor the ass, erm, I mean horse said victory.
― nader (nader), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Conspiracy Theory: ILX hates me!!!
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
which "theory"?
which "that"?
― nader (nader), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
For starters, whatever happened to the investigation into the mass airline/oil stock trading that occurred in the days before 9/11?
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I remember reading about this airliner v. Pentagon theory what? Two years ago now?
I'm confident there are any number of interesting facts with which one could run off on one tangent or another, but like most conspiracy theories (e.g. the JFK assassination) we just don't want to believe something so simple (hi-jackers with box cutters or a wackjob with steady aim) could cause so much pain.
If, however, you're looking for more "objective facts, worthy questions and valuable insights that will make even skeptics realize that 9/11 was orchestrated and carried out by the Power Elite within our own government," George Humphrey's your man.
― nader (nader), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
All the other ones (like the insider trading mystery stence mentioned above) were much scarier and much more plausible. I was really intrigued by the woman who is taking the Bush Administration to court under anti-racketeering law, claiming that they had foreknowledge and did nothing.
― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Every time I make the mistake of participating in some friendly conversation in a coffee shop I wind up getting an earful of 9/11 conspiracy, federal reserve conspiracy, moon landing conspiracy, etc.. And I find it sort of frightening when a person seems cool and suddenly the conversation turns that way. It's not just that the person at the next table believes something you don't, it's that you suddenly feel like you're secretly their enemy.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link
you are!
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe you should stop going to CUPPA TRUTHERS
― remy bean, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
man SO many music people believe the most ridiculous shit about this stuff
one learns to smile, nod & change the subject
― J0hn D., Friday, 28 March 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, one of the dudes I was talking to today was some kind of poet and the other one was a band guy
― Hurting 2, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link
so glad I am a misanthrope who doesn't hang out with people any more
― J0hn D., Friday, 28 March 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link
word
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link
thank god I only hang out with you guys on the internet
― Hurting 2, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link
and I'm only half-joking! After the mindfuck I just underwent, your handles are like 12-point Times New Roman blue beacons of sanity.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Ok, so the lunar landing wasn't really faked. That was a story put out by the government to distract people by having the public talk about WHETHER the landing happened instead of what we FOUND there.
And do you know why?
― Hurting 2, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Because if people on earth realized that there were aliens out there, we'd all just be humans! No more nationalism, and then the military industrial complex would dry up!
theres an interview with sammy hagar in the last revolver where he breaks down the 3 types of aliens that visit earth: robots, angels, and actual aliens.
― chaki, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link
if only all the conspiracy people looked like this
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/30/marioncotillard_wideweb__470x312,0.jpg
― gershy, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm currently visiting the states for the first time. i'd believe anything about you people.....
― darraghmac, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link
darra did you know i once ate a british guy
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link
conspiracy theories are awesome fun.
like comic books and video games.
― gr8080, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:17 (sixteen years ago) link
HOOS, did an irish guy buy you a drink after?
― darraghmac, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link
gr8080 otm http://www.1290kowb.com/Images/Station%20Images/CoasttoCoastLogo.gif
^^nightly fix of conspiracy crackpots
― chaki, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link
haha Richard K
― W i l l, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link
-- chaki, Friday, March 28, 2008 3:11 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
lol
doesn't he believe he was abducted?
― latebloomer, Friday, 28 March 2008 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I was ok with my coworker in Chicago a few years who was a 9/11 conspiracy theory nut, until he got angry at me for something I said about Al Gore. It turns out he's a climate change conspiracy theory nut too. Then he sent me the link to some radio station that does nothing but take calls and agree with people who are into 9/11 and global warming conspiracy theories.
― Z S, Friday, 28 March 2008 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I bet these people would be great conspiracy believers:
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/823924.aspx
― StanM, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.henrymakow.com/is-this-deceased-emilie-parker.html
wtf
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 06:04 (eleven years ago) link
Okay CONSPIRACY THEORISTS are totally multiplying thanks to social networking. Someone posted this today
http://www.naturalnews.com/036756_depopulation_agenda_eugenics_survivor.html
― homosexual II, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
This might have been posted elsewhere...http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-the-sandy-hook-truther-conspiracy-video-that-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week?tag=conspiracies
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
Eugenics conspiracy theories have spiked up ever since DARPA started spending on the BioDesign project
The Pentagon’s mad science arm may have come up with its most radical project yet. Darpa is looking to re-write the laws of evolution to the military’s advantage, creating “synthetic organisms” that can live forever — or can be killed with the flick of a molecular switch.As part of its budget for the next year, Darpa is investing $6 million into a project called BioDesign, with the goal of eliminating “the randomness of natural evolutionary advancement.” The plan would assemble the latest bio-tech knowledge to come up with living, breathing creatures that are genetically engineered to “produce the intended biological effect.” Darpa wants the organisms to be fortified with molecules that bolster cell resistance to death, so that the lab-monsters can “ultimately be programmed to live indefinitely.”Of course, Darpa’s got to prevent the super-species from being swayed to do enemy work — so they’ll encode loyalty right into DNA, by developing genetically programmed locks to create “tamper proof” cells. Plus, the synthetic organism will be traceable, using some kind of DNA manipulation, “similar to a serial number on a handgun.” And if that doesn’t work, don’t worry. In case Darpa’s plan somehow goes horribly awry, they’re also tossing in a last-resort, genetically-coded kill switch:Develop strategies to create a synthetic organism “self-destruct” option to be implemented upon nefarious removal of organism.The project comes as Darpa also plans to throw $20 million into a new synthetic biology program, and $7.5 million into “increasing by several decades the speed with which we sequence, analyze and functionally edit cellular genomes.”
As part of its budget for the next year, Darpa is investing $6 million into a project called BioDesign, with the goal of eliminating “the randomness of natural evolutionary advancement.” The plan would assemble the latest bio-tech knowledge to come up with living, breathing creatures that are genetically engineered to “produce the intended biological effect.” Darpa wants the organisms to be fortified with molecules that bolster cell resistance to death, so that the lab-monsters can “ultimately be programmed to live indefinitely.”
Of course, Darpa’s got to prevent the super-species from being swayed to do enemy work — so they’ll encode loyalty right into DNA, by developing genetically programmed locks to create “tamper proof” cells. Plus, the synthetic organism will be traceable, using some kind of DNA manipulation, “similar to a serial number on a handgun.” And if that doesn’t work, don’t worry. In case Darpa’s plan somehow goes horribly awry, they’re also tossing in a last-resort, genetically-coded kill switch:
Develop strategies to create a synthetic organism “self-destruct” option to be implemented upon nefarious removal of organism.
The project comes as Darpa also plans to throw $20 million into a new synthetic biology program, and $7.5 million into “increasing by several decades the speed with which we sequence, analyze and functionally edit cellular genomes.”
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
I have to admit that I'm somewhat freaked out by the low-end bio-hacker movement. One nice side-effect of the ultra-right's anti-science position is that they've duped themselves into still believing that guns and religion are more effective of a weapon than genetics.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
I think this one has legs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bntfUA6TmLs
― polyphonic, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Won't say the f-word, but she will turn the can upside-down. Tsk, tsk.
― pplains, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Folks, I've read a lot of really weird stuff on the Internet but nothing like: http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2014/12/Furry.html
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:36 (nine years ago) link
The Huffington Post has the details: you need to know where it all started.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/inside-knowledge-about-unidentified-aerial-phenomena_us_59dc1230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
It all started with award-winning platinum recording artist and producer Tom DeLonge,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
― the old rugged crocs (unregistered), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link
A week ago:
I wonder (IE this is almost certainly bollocks) whether an increased belief in large-scale conspiracy theories is influenced by increased awareness of actual large-scale conspiracies, less Stonecutters-style centralisation than 'everyone knows but no-one says' that ensure that, say, African Americans are generally getting the worst end of the economy whether it's up or down, or women have been vulnerable whatever their level of fame.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 March 2018 15:41 (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yesterday:https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/its-easy-to-believe-conspiracy-theories-when-your-count-1823714759
I means, I'm not saying there a connection, but if you can't see a connection, then I'm not sure what else I can say.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 March 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link
How many more examples are necessary?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 April 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link