US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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pioneer spirit & entrepreneurship is only good when it's republicans, otherwise it's base cynicism - did you miss the meeting or something

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL J0hn D. I did imply the pettiness of the position.

May be speaking to soon but one KIP of the Brown Administration seems to be: it's gone CRICKETS on the Palin media whoring front.

gnothi sautée (suzy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

press blackout prior to her album release iirc

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

there will be plenty next month when she speaks in front of the tea baggers

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

So is she on Fox already? I'm guessing not because there has been like nearly a week w/o hearing her say some dumb fucking thing or other that gets heard around the world.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd concentrate on the people currently in power who are fucking you over, for now.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^ yes

HI DERE, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh this spending freeze is literally some McCain level bullshit. Obamas approval numbers are going to be in the shitter soon and its going to be because of a bunch of pissed off Dems.

mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Not the same situation obviously, but FDR's spending freeze in 1937 did not, er, help him.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I honestly thought I heard wrong this morning when I first found out about it, because it's so dumb. Like Sarah Palin dumb.

ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Was nice that we used all the non political time on this term fucking up the healthcare bill...

mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i was tryna convince myself its some kind of next level, so-stupid-it's-genius con game

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

makes me sad b/c he usually pops out of the fray with something smart and enlightening. this is distraction, bait and switch, shell game, i.e. status quo.

bnw, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

he pumps, now he fires over the middle intercepted i cant believe what im seeing right now

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

my roommate was rejoicing that obama is being forced to respond to the demands of the american people and ignore his own socialist agenda

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

favre analogy dead on

bnw, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

well, i don't think bad turnovers has been longterm meta of obama, but the feeling now...

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

the only real defense i can give of this (beyond the dipshit red-meat reasons, which, if hoos' roomate is any indicator, he won't get any credit for anyway) is that there is a huuuge political lead time necessary to make any kind of spending cuts. interest groups that are, uh, interested in the targeted money are going to have to be wooed/placated/beaten with sticks for a good long while. announce it now and maybe by 2011 it'll happen. or maybe by then, the numbers will look totally different and nobody will remember january '10 anyway.

what's super depressing is not just that the political effort to axe domestic discretionary spending is so large, it's that the political effort to axe defense spending or non-discretionary spending is basically impossible

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/more-obama-freeze-backstory
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2010/01/26/defense/index.html

goole, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

in MN two of the four prongs of a malpractice suit (duty, breach, cause, damage) are assessed by a panel of third party experts before the case can even be filed (if that's the word), so frivolous lawsuits get filtered out pretty early on, like so many electrolytes thru a glomerulus

― mage pit laceration (gbx), Monday, January 25, 2010 12:04 AM (Yesterday)

lol so how did renal midterm go

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

re: "climate change" as a term instead of "global warming"

Many people (including myself) prefer to use "climate change" because of the numerous expected consequences of our ghg emissions that go beyond warming itself -acidified oceans, more severe and frequent weather events, depleting freshwater stocks, the ongoing sixth great extinction event, spreading insect-borne diseases, etc.

I think the worry was that if you keep referring to "global warming" then the general public would think that the threat was limited to more sunburns and having to turn on the AC more often. Of course, that's pretty much happened anyway but…

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

See also: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/climate_by_any_other_name.html

But temperature change itself isn't the most severe effect of changing climate. Changes to precipitation patterns and sea level are likely to have much greater human impact than the higher temperatures alone. For this reason, scientific research on climate change encompasses far more than surface temperature change. So "global climate change" is the more scientifically accurate term. Like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, we've chosen to emphasize global climate change on this website, and not global warming.

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

here's another theory: if the SOTU is going to make the case that health care reform is primarily a fiscal issue rather than a moral one, then the budget freeze is part of a larger sales job for that

but i'm well and truly sick of "11th dimensional chess" defenses at this point, and if it's true it would be pretty stupid.

goole, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

don't really care about this proposed spending freeze myself, hard to say how things will actually shake out at this early stage.

so is healthcare just dead now? no bill? is everyone gonna act like that whole process just never happened...?

Prof. Einstein Geniuspants (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

just like that season of "Dallas," which also lasted a year and went nowhere

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

huh?

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Morbz watches Dallas

Prof. Einstein Geniuspants (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Morbz does Dallas

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

we're about to wake up with suzanne pleshette

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

At the tail end of Dallas' ninth season, Pamela Ewing (Victoria Principal) was awakened from her troubled slumbers by the sound of a familiar voice in her bathroom. Investigating, she peeked past the shower curtains -- and was astonished to find her ex-husband, Bobby Ewing (Patrick Duffy), who had presumably been killed at the end of the series' eighth season, alive and well! How could this be? Well, the opening scene of season ten explains all. Bobby was never killed -- and the entire ninth season was all a nightmare, dreamed up by poor Pamela! Thus, the writers have blithely negated everything that has happened during the previous season, and from this point forward, not even the most loyal of the series' fans will ever be able to take Dallas entirely seriously again.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

If only that last line were true of Dem voters

(really Shakey, even in the '80s I knew what happened on TV shows w/out watching them)

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ Newhart reference

struck through in my prime (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

wasn't St. Elsewhere all a dream as well

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elsewhere#Final_episode

not quite

struck through in my prime (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

oh right the snow globe thing

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think i ever watched the show

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

(really Shakey, even in the '80s I knew what happened on TV shows w/out watching them)

so when did your ability to know what happened in movies w/out watching them kick in... 90s? 00s?

Prof. Einstein Geniuspants (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

so is healthcare just dead now? no bill? is everyone gonna act like that whole process just never happened...?

no, it'll be a nice rallying point for both parties come the election - "they shot down health care! don't vote for them!" vs. "we shot down health care! vote for us"

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

read that quickly and thought the latter was supposed to be dems, and it sort of still fit :(

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

out loud lol

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh . . . lol? I think?

Federal authorities have arrested four men on felony charges for attempting to infiltrate Sen. Mary Landrieu’s New Orleans office, including one filmmaker who targeted the community group ACORN last year in undercover videos.

Among those arrested was 25-year-old James O’Keefe, the conservative filmmaker, along with Joseph Basel, Robert Flanagan and Stan Dai, all 24. They were charged with entering federal property under false pretenses and attempting to gain access to the Democrat’s office by posing as telephone repairmen, according to a copy of an FBI affidavit unsealed Tuesday.

The complaint said that Flanagan and Basel each entered the premises, wearing light green fluorescent vests, denim paints and blue work shirts, tool belts and hard-hats. They informed a member of Landrieu’s staff that they were telephone repairmen and requested access to the main telephone at the reception desk.

At that point, the two men allegedly attempted to manipulate telephones and accessed the telephone closet, saying they needed to work on the entire system. The men, who said they left their credentials in their vehicles, were arrested by the U.S. Marshal’s Service soon afterward.

According to the FBI, the four men could each face up to 10 years and a fine of $250,000 if they are convicted.

O’Keefe made waves last year when he posed as a pimp and taped ACORN employees discussing a prostitution ring, embarrassing the group and forcing many of its supporters to spurn its ties with it.

what of the fuck you talkie bout (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

If dems actually cared about environmental causes they would wrestle the debate from "Um....its gonna cause sea levels to rise in 100 years" to "Look at these cancer rates. Pollution has a HUMAN cost and we're all paying it." Conservatives are successfully keeping it in Global Warming/Climate Change territory because its a vague and abstract problem that people don't really care about.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

a spending freeze doesn't even seem smart from a jaded political perspective. Are people really going to swallow a spending freeze one year after a stimulus? I guess no one ever loses money underestimating the American public...

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Especially one that excludes defense spending, which pretty much everyone agrees is overrun with waste.

what of the fuck you talkie bout (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^the right does not agree with that at all

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Or John Murtha.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

as far as i can tell this is a stupid move design to appeal to 1) "independents"--who dont actually exist and 2) "republicans"--who, since they have no policies besides hating nonwhites, dont give a shit

max, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

max you really think the main purpose of this is to appeal to a group of people - that the q of whether it's sound economic policy or not is secondary? and if so isn't that y'know...like...horrible? not bein sarcastic or anything just thinking how terrible if decisions that affect everybody are being made primarily out of the desire to please, or not to displease, a demographic

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

J0hn, this happens all the time!

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

seems to me that's patently obvious what's going on, particularly since this is just a "proposal" with no binding legislative authority behind it

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link


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