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guys it's enough that leno is still on the air

goole, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"President Obama took something that was in terrible, terrible shape, and he brought it back from the brink of disaster: The Republican party." –Jay Leno

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

news of the Republicans resurgence is greatly exaggerated imho. the public still hates them (less than a third of the electorate identifies with the Party!) and they're in the process of being split asunder from inside thanks to this Teabagging ridiculousness.

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

And they have absolutely no (less than the Dems, even) general responsible policy of governance. The party that acquiesces to calling Obama a socialist, will complain against all cuts to Medicare, easily the most socialist program on the books, but won't back off knee-jerk opposition to ANY tax increases and that will end up killing more elderly people in the long run than any death panels.

Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

They will partisanlly defend torture even if it smears our repoutation with shit AND worsens our national security.

Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

None dare call it treason.

Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah they have nothing to run on except hatred of Obama and his policies, which any capable Dem opponent will handily point as attempts to REMEDY what the Republicans' were doing just less than 2 years ago.

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, guys, I take back what I said: Obama kicked ass at that House Repub event. He made them look like the kooks and fools and cynics they are.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah everything i've read about it, it sounds like he was kind of awesome

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

And, like I said, if the DNC had balls they'd air clips in every open Congressional district.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously cant BELIEVE gop let obama do that

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean that was like a democratic party-level mistake--give the most popular politician in the country a mic, a stage, and the opportunity to swat down each and every one of your ideas, and make it look like a bipartisan exchange

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"fuck, it's only c-span, what's the worst that could happen?"

goole, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha can't wait to watch this!

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

They probably thought they would humiliate Obama with their better ideas.

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

almost made up for rahm emanuels comments about hcr

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I was being facetious with that, but they could also be banking on Obama slipping up at some point and offering a soundbyte that might be damaging in political ads later. The downside - Obama defending the administration's policies and offering the reasoning behind them - may be obvious for Obama voters, but I think it's pretty obvious that GOP voters and teabaggers aren't really affected by reason.

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah my sense is that hubris got the better of them

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of ironic, given the normal line of attack against Obama

struck through in my prime (HI DERE), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, the guy was a con law professor; this was no contest.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope he keeps doing it--aren't they gonna meet once a month or something, but do you think they'll get smart & uninvite him

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the WH really needs to push on this--lets do it once a month!

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I kinda wondered if something like this as coming when Boehner was recently quoted as saying he hadn't spoken/seen Obama face-to-face in a year (which at first I assumed was a boldfaced lie). simply put, these guys are morons and didn't see the potential political implications of what they were doing, and Obama did. He made it look like he was making a conciliatory overture, then let them hang themselves with their stupidity.

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

as = was

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, the guy was a con law professor; this was no contest.

that hasn't stopped him from lying in the SOTU address

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

it probably helped him tbh

goole, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I recall eerily similar Clinton theories.

totally sympathetic to this, as a Clinton voter who felt completely and totally betrayed by him post-'94... but Clinton never confronted the opposition the way Obama did today, I don't think he was capable (or interested) in it. otoh, it seems like a stretch to believe that the GOP will change their tune following this embarassment. Its good politics for Obama, definitely, but these guys are so unprincipled and obstinate I don't know if there's any minds there for Obama to actually change. This is the kind of opposition that sees any compromise as a sign of weakness (and that goes both for themselves and for their opponent), so you can't make nice and hope they'll play along... but they also aren't really susceptible to being bullied. Maybe Obama's playing the long game here and hoping that if he can turn the political fortunes of the Dems around, then enough of these bozos will be voted out of office and he'll get an even bigger majority in the fall...? although that's a long ways away, and also seems kinda unlikely...

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

that hasn't stopped him from lying in the SOTU address

oh STFU even your "fact checking" post couldn't come up with anything

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

We found Obama was exaggerating the impact of the Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance when he said it would "open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign companies – to spend without limit in our elections." We rated that Barely True.

for the record, this (for example) is not a FACT its a fucking prognostication - and their opinion on the future is no more or less dubious than Obama's.

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

barack "liar" obama

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

but do tell which "lies" you're referring to... maybe bet your balls while you're at it

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

was it the part where he said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

cry me a river Shakey.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

No, seriously.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

don, don't bet your balls!

goole, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

no seriously, what "lies" are you referring to cuz yr post didn't cite a SINGLE ONE

river of blood coming up...

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I only lost my balls once, when McCain got nominated. And that hurt.

Hey Shakey--how about the time that Obama lied about having HCR negotiations on CSPAN?

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

that wasn't in the SOTU

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

did don bet his balls or

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

if you bet your balls you'll probably get 2-to-1 odds

i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

who will get dons balls if he loses the bet

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

getting don's balls--not sure that's "winning"

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

and if yr referring to Reid making backroom deals with Ben Nelson, for example, that's kinda Reid's fault and not Obama's, no?

cuz otherwise I'm pretty sure CSPAN televised all the Senate/House floor proceedings on healthcare just like they do for every other issue...

x-post

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign corporations – to spend without limit in our elections."

It was not a century of law.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

WHAT A LIAR

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

YOU LIE OBAMA

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

NOT A CENTURY

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

IMPEACH THE LIAR

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link


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