yah i just d/l a torrent. i just finished the 1st season and im not really feeling it - like there are all these component parts that really interest me but the whole doesnt gel - also kinda ashamed that i was so into the cooper/audrey horn thing. kept forgetting she was supposed 2 b a high school senior
fwiw its the euro ending that "ruins" the series - except not really cuz it just moves the backwards talking dream sequence fwd a few episodes
― Lamp, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
The "pilot," released as such, does not contain the same spoilerish ending as the version of it which was released as a standalone film. One would just have to be careful to make such distinctions.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
it reveals slightly more than the dream iirc
― billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh i may not rc tho cause i only watched that version once and i was screaming the whole time
xps: lol clusterfuck of redunancy
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
clusterfuck of redunancy
coincidentally, that's the title of the new U2 album.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yah roxy it does give a little more info abt bob and mike but i think almost every shot in the euro/standalone ending is reused in the next seven eps. almost of all of which is in cooper's dream in i think the 2nd or 3rd episode. it certainly hasnt "ruined" the ending for me. i still have no idea who killed laura
― Lamp, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean - its p dumb to watch the euro pilot because it makes the dream way less effective/cool/interesting but its not like a major spoiler or anything
― Lamp, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
okay so: glad i stuck w/this bcuz it got really interesting 2 me right from the start of the second season. that interminable sequence where the old-guy waiter brings cooper a glass of milk and the phone is off the hook and they keep trading thumbs-up is brilliant. and then the giant appears and gives the three clues and i started to really 'get' some of the aspects that werent working 4 me
generally liked the really drawn-out ambling scenes but i do think some of the sloppiness was them making a virtue of their own laziness/uncertainty. whoever sd upthread that no narrative tv show cld get away w/ the unresolved and/or poorly constructed storylines that plagues the 2nd season. the fact that i kinda works doesnt excuse it i guess
also caek otm that the scene where major briggs describes his dream (of the white lodge?) to bobby is incredible. generally loved his character whenever he had to interact w/his son tbh. also really loved the fact that the deaf fbi agent can hear shelly thought their scenes 2gether were the best ones madchen amick did. <3 her tho.
the final episode was ~killer~ too even if it seems 2 resist much analysis
― abraham higginbotham is a dude (Lamp), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
1 last thought: reading this thread kept reminding me of the many little things that were rad about the series (lol that song that james donna & maddy sing) and i think it lost something to have watched it really quickly in isolation w/o having any1 to talk abt the show w/
― abraham higginbotham is a dude (Lamp), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
that interminable sequence where the old-guy waiter brings cooper a glass of milk and the phone is off the hook and they keep trading thumbs-up is brilliant.
probably the best moment of the series! but it's all downhill from here, dude, except for the last episode.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, the opening of the season two premier is my favorite stretch as well. Interesting that Lynch had the "the world's most decrepit room-service waiter" old dude actor basically reprise the character he played in The Searchers w/ the indian whoops & the "Hallelujahs" and such.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Friday, 19 February 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The UK version of the 2nd Season and a corresponding UK Gold Box Edition of the whole set finally come out on March 22nd! Hurrah! Good pre-order prices for the Gold Box from the usual places...
― krakow, Friday, 19 February 2010 09:12 (fourteen years ago) link
old dude actor basically reprise the character he played in The Searchers
!!! I never made this connection wtf
― Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
His name is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Worden. I tried to find a clip from the movie, but this is the best thing I could come up with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxUtpg1R44U
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
idk lots of season 2 had theses amazing otherworldly moments things that integrated really well w/ the dopey small-town soap stuff imo. things like bobby's teen melodrama melting in the face the major's bizarre and beautiful vision. that was probably the best monologue in series filled w/standouts. or donna showing up at the house where she had delivered the cream corn and finding that the old woman and the magician werent there and maybe never had been.
the final episode was def the best of the series though. the creepy glassy-eyed dopplegangers were legit scary. couldnt disagree more w/toumas fwiw i thought the show was @ its best when it was working with the more mythic/fantastic stuff
― abraham higginbotham is a dude (Lamp), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
now you get to watch fire walk with me! :D
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 19 February 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
couldnt disagree more w/toumas fwiw i thought the show was @ its best when it was working with the more mythic/fantastic stuff
good rule of thumb not to pay attention to tuomas
― Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 February 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Fire Walk With Me is mostly a mess but does have its moments (much like Season 2)
fire walk with me is fantastic
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 20 February 2010 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
it is a fantastic mess.
― wmlynch, Saturday, 20 February 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
fire walk with me is one of my favourite films...
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Season 2 is pretty awesome all the way up until the main mystery is wrapped up. The Lynch-directed episodes in that stretch are high points of the series.
A friend and I watched the Major Shares Vision w/ Bobby scene literally like 6 times in a row while drunk one night. It's beautiful.
― circa1916, Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
really? sort of cheezy i thought.
― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 21 February 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Of all the Twin Peaks things to call cheezy...
I really disliked Fire Walk with Me the first time I watched it, completely loved it the second time. Anyone else have that experience?
― Jouster, Sunday, 21 February 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
the more you watch any lynch movie the more you get out of it iirc
― billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― circa1916, Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:22 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
this is my favorite TV scene ever
― 69, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Lucy is in a Burger King tv ad I keep seeing.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
That's who that is. I kept thinking, "Man, Victoria Jackson must've had a lot of plastic surgery."
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys know shelly is on this season of damages right???
― 69, Monday, 8 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, March 8, 2010 1:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
yeah i spotted that. glad she's getting work. her interviews on the series DVD set are great--she's completely no-nonsense.
― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 8 March 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
mädchën amïck is on a lot of series TV, she somehow looks both more traditionally beautiful and less distinctive (i.e. hot) than she did 20 years ago.
― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 8 March 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
wow yr right shes been in everything
i think she just got older and gained weight, right?
― 69, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
no, she's no bigger than before, just different. maybe a nose job? her face seems less angular.
― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe youre right -- looks like it coulda been a chin/nose job actually...
― 69, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
that would be a shame, she did not need it
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 8 March 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
buy Laura Palmer's house:http://www.redfin.com/WA/Monroe/534-S-Lewis-St-98272/home/2450728
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 19 March 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
That's incredible...Can you imagine living in there? I wouldn't be able to function--I'd be checking for Bob behind every couch and around every corner. If you click on the interior thumbnails, though, it looks very different. I was hoping see that staircase that Mrs. Palmer keeps running down in slow motion, with the overhead fan, but it's not there.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 March 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally, a UK release of season 2: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Twin-Peaks-Definitive-Gold-Version/dp/B0030IM458/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1269007906&sr=8-1
Anyone know why this took so long?
― Neil S, Friday, 19 March 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha, clemenza, I just said that if I lived there, I would have nightmares forever. I would definitely have to remove anything that was floral or pink or any ottomans. David Lynch is amazing; he can make a fucking pink upholstered footstool seem like the most menacing and evil thing ever.
(We're watching Twin Peaks for the first time and we're on episode 14, I think, the one after the episode where *****SPOILER****** Bob goes to town on Maddy and I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV! That was fucking brutal and awful and I could never live in that house, shit.)
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Friday, 19 March 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV!
I know what you mean. On Lynch's birthday, I always show my grade 6 class Cooper's first dream, the famous one. (A regular such-and-such-was-born-or-died-on-this-day thing I do in my classroom. Usually it's Einstein, MLK, etc.) I show it for the weirdness; it's basically pretty innocuous. A couple of years, I've thrown in a second clip, the sequence where Ronette Pulaski comes out of her coma. Watching it this year I thought, "That's the last time for that." A big part of my rationale has been that it was a network TV show that aired in prime-time 20 years ago, but that's not good enough. That sequence is just too intense--and, same point, I can't believe it aired on broadcast TV.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 March 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Oof, yeah, good call on Ronette's awakening. I could see that being pretty upsetting/potentially trigger to some kids. Shit, to some adults.
I absolutely love that you celebrate David Lynch's birthday with your sixth grade students, though. That is totally awesome.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Friday, 19 March 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah this was genuinely shocking when it aired.
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 March 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
and its funny because there isn't anything in it that's particularly censor-worthy - there's no nudity, no gore, no swearing. but the WAY in which the attack is shot and the context for the action make it totally horrifying
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah. Absolutely the most horrifying broadcast television scene I've ever seen.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
btw I heart my local video store - next weekend they are having a Twin Peaks marathon starting Saturday at noon and going through Sunday night (they encouraged people to bring sleeping bags lol) I am thinking of stopping by with some coffee and donuts
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Just finished watching the whole thing since first seeing it in college. Gotta share some thoughts. First - I love that it ends with Bob-in-mirror/graphically bloody 'Coop' cliffhanger - PERFECT! It just sticks with ya. I mean think about it. When Coop goes into the Sycamore circle and into the 'black lodge' curtain - who is called / brought to Major Briggs in the diner to communicate what is happening in the black lodge? - why none other than Sarah Palmer! Here's my theory - the evil goings on of the black lodge are an infinite loop in the Twin Peaks community. Dale Cooper sees (possessed doppelganger) Leland in the Black Lodge - just as he sees a doppelganger of himself. I believe that once upon a time Leland saves Sarah from the black lodge in the past and that is why she can still communicate with its goings on when Coop is present there. Leland may have saved Sarah only at the expense of Laura/Maddy - just like Coop saves Annie only at the expense of being co-opted by 'Bob' and the assumptive future action of possible killing while being possessed by 'Bob' ... I need to find some good books and/or internet write-ups on all things Twin Peaks - any suggestions?
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
WHERE'S ANNIE?
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Geez, you could really go to town with that...I think I'd drop by the store dressed up in one of Windom Earle's get-ups, drop a big side of lamb on the counter Jerry Horne-style (or whatever kind of meat it was he brought back from one of his trips), flash the secret One-Eyed Jacks handsign, and finish off with a little Lelandesque dance.
― clemenza, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
lol yeah I should just find the biggest sandwich I can and bring that
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link