New Coen Bros, A Serious Man

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so many scenes in this movie are punctuated with question--"who cares?" "why not?" "then what?"

max, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

u know he is credited at the end as "dybbuk?"

― mo collier mo problems (s1ocki), Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:28 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like i said here... the question mark is in the actual credit, if i didnt make that cler

f1ocki (s1ocki), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

ahem clear

f1ocki (s1ocki), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

who cares?

max, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link

me iirc

f1ocki (s1ocki), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

so what?

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Friday, 19 February 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

embrace the mystery

Luz, a saucy taco slinger (hmmmm), Friday, 19 February 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't do anything

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 February 2010 08:12 (fourteen years ago) link

F Troop, a childhood favorite of mine, was like a dumbed down cavalry version of Sgt. Bilko. Some of the humor was pretty Borscht Belt (the Indians were the Hekawi tribe, as in "where the heck are we?"), but I think the only regular played by a former Catskills comic was Larry Storch's Corporal Agarn.

Film fans and car aficionados will have the chance to own a unique piece of movie memorabilia from one of the Best Picture nominees when Variety – The Children’s Charity of Southern California next week begins hosting the online auction of the 1966 Dodge Coronet used in Focus Features and Working Title Films’ A Serious Man. The film is nominated for two Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Original Screenplay (Joel & Ethan Coen). The auction will be live at www.eBay.com/varietyskids, starting Monday, February 22, 2010 and end Thursday, March 4, 2010 – right before the Oscars. Proceeds from the auction will go to help inspire hope, enrich lives and build a better future for the children in need in Southern California.

The auction will give collectors the chance to bid on the vintage vehicle seen on-screen as the car owned and driven by lead character Larry Gopnik (Michael Stuhlbarg)...

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Watching this right now for the first time. Impressions to come, but at the moment it feels very much a film about the ways that the Jewish community fails to help individuals deal with tragedy. Not sure if I feel totally comfortable with that, but it feels true to my experiences.

Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2010 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i almost don't want to watch it again: it was so dope the first time i don't think i could like it as much again. otoh, i want to watch it again.

sharter the unstoppable ilx machine (history mayne), Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

but Mordy, I thought the community helped as much as it could. ie, we all die alone.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 February 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Side note, but I recently interviewed Peter Himmelman, who grew up in St. Louis Park in the '60s and '70s a few years behind the Coens in school, and he said, "That is exactly my life."

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome. Sussman Lawrence were invited back to play countless dances and, I think, a prom there.

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Best thing I've seen in maybe 5 years. Watched it on a plane, overtired and vulnerable to begin with, and it just destroyed me. So funny, so dark, so wonderful.

Not mentioned here yet, not sure if I imagined it and couldn't rewind to check: one of the messages in the first stack Larry gets from his secretary is his doctor calling about "urgent test results". He's flipping through when he gets distracted (by the Korean student maybe?) and never gets back to it. So even as Larry's life finally took a turn for the better near the end, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Amazing ending.

Cricket riding a tumbleweed (Plasmon), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

except that doesnt he go to the doctor and get an x-ray sometime during the movie?

max, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

wasn't that the first thing we saw in the 'present'? so the urgent message came afterwards?

do we know how long a timespan the movie covered? cuz I try not to think of it in terms of 'horrible shit happens to dude for no reason' as much as I do 'bad shit happens to dude, gets worse because he can't deal with it', so leaving getting back to the doctor for an age (and so letting whatever's wrong with him get worse) would work for me, whereas being fucked through no fault of his own, less so.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I am happy that the actor who plays Sy Abelman FINALLY has a wikipedia page.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

My favorite Sy Abelman moment: when he counts, silently, to 10.

About the message: maybe the first time (of the several) Larry comes into his university office and his secretary hands him his messages, he gets a small stack of them (including one from Columbia Records and maybe one from Sy Adelman?), and he's flipping through them, he flips past one that says "Dr Whatever, re: urgent test results" just as he gets distracted by something (his department head? the Korean student? his kid calling him about F Troop?) and doesn't notice. This is fairly early on.

I may have hallucinated it. But I spent the rest of the movie waiting for the phone call that only came in the last scene.

Cricket riding a tumbleweed (Plasmon), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, Richard Kind and Fred Melamed rooked out of Oscar nominations in favor of Martin Short doing Conrad Veidt.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"Item location: Hastings, MN."

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

loved the score for this

tehresa, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i loved this movie

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally saw this last night, possibly the best thing they've done. Only time will tell.

An excellent and substantial analysis of the themes of the movie by Todd Alcott, some of the ideas are a bit fanciful to me (Mr Brandt is God/Mrs Schlasky is the devil) but there's plenty to commend it http://toddalcott.livejournal.com/tag/coen%20bros

The Man With the Magic Eardrums (Billy Dods), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Not mentioned here yet, not sure if I imagined it and couldn't rewind to check: one of the messages in the first stack Larry gets from his secretary is his doctor calling about "urgent test results"

Re-watching, it's actually a message from Clive the Korean student's father re: "unfair test results".

Cricket riding a tumbleweed (Plasmon), Monday, 29 March 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i think i really need to see this don't i?

although i've never gotten excited by one of the coens' films before, so i'd be surprised if this did the trick. i suppose i'm just not on their wavelength. (my girlfriend likes them much more.)

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally saw this last night, possibly the best thing they've done.

this is the growing buzz, isn't it? which is why i suddenly feel like i should see it.

the whole "god as protag" is sort of ridiculous. i mean, i can see the idea of god as a hidden agent being important to the film, but if you want to accept "god as protag" you'd have to throw out like almost every component element of that concept (protagonist) that makes it mean anything.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of the weakest sequences here are, predictably, pot-related

Another vote for you're nuts; the entire barmitzvah set piece was incredible.

I loved the exchange between fake Ira Glass and Gopnik in his office -
(badly, I'm sure, paraphrased):

Ira: "I shouldn't be telling you this, but we've gotten some letters to the tenure committee... disparaging you."
Gopnik: "Is the writing... idiomatic?"
Ira (pauses for thought): "No... in fact, they're quite eloquent."

I really loved this.

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

no, i just know pot + comedy = boredom

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 March 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

apologies if i said this before, but the scenes depicting the tense jewish/gentile relations were unsettling and genuine.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 29 March 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

It's strange - I'm sure there were Gentiles in the town that were a bit taciturn with their Jewish neighbours for whatever reason (and tbh I'm sure that neighbour would have been considered fuckin' weird by anyone unfortunate enough to be next door) but we were not those neighbours. Few were; the suburb is known for its Jewish community.

suzy, Monday, 29 March 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i didn't mean that suburb in particular. but those scenes capture the feeling of being a particular type of outsider that i've felt, too (albeit in a different time and place).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 29 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, I'm not going to deny a certain anti-Semitism of the lazy, centred on envy of either perceived wealth or intelligence. I for one, did not resent the Frozen Chosen. Also, in school, it was a huge, detention-punishable, all-tongues-wagging offense to call a classmate a schmuck, much less anything more inflammatory. Anyone who was going to do that pretty much got schooled within a month of starting 7th Grade.

suzy, Monday, 29 March 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

thought this was even better second time around fwiw (and loved it to begin with)

nakhchivan, Monday, 29 March 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Frozen Chosen--ha, name of MN klezmer compilation a decade ago, iIrc. Did this expression/joke precede Public Enemy?

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The expression was current when I was in high school, so yes (we also said Chosen Frozen).

DCLXVI (suzy), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

that lutheran wit!

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Just who are you calling Lutheran?

DCLXVI (suzy), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

that phrase was presumably created by jews to break the ice with their uneasy gentile neighbours i guess?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Collectively arrived at by comedy nerds in my high school.

DCLXVI (suzy), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a nice phrase!

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Suzy, when were you in high school?

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, spending all Passover discussing this film with family.

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Pete, I am old: class of '86.

DCLXVI (suzy), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, you're a baby. Email me at petescholtes at gmail dot com, I'd love to ask you about da cities during that period for mah bookh.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Will do. Shall I put you in touch with M1ch3ll3 Str4uss, who is older than me and used to work at Northern Lights?

DCLXVI (suzy), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

You're writing about about the Cities in the '80s, Pete? Sweet!

queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

if u need the perspective of a 5 year old (in 86), lemme know

drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link


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