Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

okay so: glad i stuck w/this bcuz it got really interesting 2 me right from the start of the second season. that interminable sequence where the old-guy waiter brings cooper a glass of milk and the phone is off the hook and they keep trading thumbs-up is brilliant. and then the giant appears and gives the three clues and i started to really 'get' some of the aspects that werent working 4 me

generally liked the really drawn-out ambling scenes but i do think some of the sloppiness was them making a virtue of their own laziness/uncertainty. whoever sd upthread that no narrative tv show cld get away w/ the unresolved and/or poorly constructed storylines that plagues the 2nd season. the fact that i kinda works doesnt excuse it i guess

also caek otm that the scene where major briggs describes his dream (of the white lodge?) to bobby is incredible. generally loved his character whenever he had to interact w/his son tbh. also really loved the fact that the deaf fbi agent can hear shelly thought their scenes 2gether were the best ones madchen amick did. <3 her tho.

the final episode was ~killer~ too even if it seems 2 resist much analysis

1 last thought: reading this thread kept reminding me of the many little things that were rad about the series (lol that song that james donna & maddy sing) and i think it lost something to have watched it really quickly in isolation w/o having any1 to talk abt the show w/

that interminable sequence where the old-guy waiter brings cooper a glass of milk and the phone is off the hook and they keep trading thumbs-up is brilliant.

probably the best moment of the series! but it's all downhill from here, dude, except for the last episode.

yeah, the opening of the season two premier is my favorite stretch as well. Interesting that Lynch had the "the world's most decrepit room-service waiter" old dude actor basically reprise the character he played in The Searchers w/ the indian whoops & the "Hallelujahs" and such.

The UK version of the 2nd Season and a corresponding UK Gold Box Edition of the whole set finally come out on March 22nd! Hurrah! Good pre-order prices for the Gold Box from the usual places...

old dude actor basically reprise the character he played in The Searchers

!!! I never made this connection wtf

His name is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Worden. I tried to find a clip from the movie, but this is the best thing I could come up with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxUtpg1R44U

probably the best moment of the series! but it's all downhill from here, dude, except for the last episode.

idk lots of season 2 had theses amazing otherworldly moments things that integrated really well w/ the dopey small-town soap stuff imo. things like bobby's teen melodrama melting in the face the major's bizarre and beautiful vision. that was probably the best monologue in series filled w/standouts. or donna showing up at the house where she had delivered the cream corn and finding that the old woman and the magician werent there and maybe never had been.

the final episode was def the best of the series though. the creepy glassy-eyed dopplegangers were legit scary. couldnt disagree more w/toumas fwiw i thought the show was @ its best when it was working with the more mythic/fantastic stuff

now you get to watch fire walk with me! :D

couldnt disagree more w/toumas fwiw i thought the show was @ its best when it was working with the more mythic/fantastic stuff

good rule of thumb not to pay attention to tuomas

Fire Walk With Me is mostly a mess but does have its moments (much like Season 2)

fire walk with me is fantastic

it is a fantastic mess.

fire walk with me is one of my favourite films...

I think Season 2 is pretty awesome all the way up until the main mystery is wrapped up. The Lynch-directed episodes in that stretch are high points of the series.

A friend and I watched the Major Shares Vision w/ Bobby scene literally like 6 times in a row while drunk one night. It's beautiful.

really? sort of cheezy i thought.

Of all the Twin Peaks things to call cheezy...

I really disliked Fire Walk with Me the first time I watched it, completely loved it the second time. Anyone else have that experience?

the more you watch any lynch movie the more you get out of it iirc

A friend and I watched the Major Shares Vision w/ Bobby scene literally like 6 times in a row while drunk one night. It's beautiful.

― circa1916, Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:22 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

this is my favorite TV scene ever

Lucy is in a Burger King tv ad I keep seeing.

That's who that is. I kept thinking, "Man, Victoria Jackson must've had a lot of plastic surgery."

you guys know shelly is on this season of damages right???

Lucy is in a Burger King tv ad I keep seeing.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, March 8, 2010 1:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah i spotted that. glad she's getting work. her interviews on the series DVD set are great--she's completely no-nonsense.

mädchën amïck is on a lot of series TV, she somehow looks both more traditionally beautiful and less distinctive (i.e. hot) than she did 20 years ago.

wow yr right shes been in everything

i think she just got older and gained weight, right?

no, she's no bigger than before, just different. maybe a nose job? her face seems less angular.

maybe youre right -- looks like it coulda been a chin/nose job actually...

that would be a shame, she did not need it

buy Laura Palmer's house:
http://www.redfin.com/WA/Monroe/534-S-Lewis-St-98272/home/2450728

That's incredible...Can you imagine living in there? I wouldn't be able to function--I'd be checking for Bob behind every couch and around every corner. If you click on the interior thumbnails, though, it looks very different. I was hoping see that staircase that Mrs. Palmer keeps running down in slow motion, with the overhead fan, but it's not there.

Finally, a UK release of season 2: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Twin-Peaks-Definitive-Gold-Version/dp/B0030IM458/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1269007906&sr=8-1

Anyone know why this took so long?

Ha, clemenza, I just said that if I lived there, I would have nightmares forever. I would definitely have to remove anything that was floral or pink or any ottomans. David Lynch is amazing; he can make a fucking pink upholstered footstool seem like the most menacing and evil thing ever.

(We're watching Twin Peaks for the first time and we're on episode 14, I think, the one after the episode where *****SPOILER****** Bob goes to town on Maddy and I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV! That was fucking brutal and awful and I could never live in that house, shit.)

I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV!

I know what you mean. On Lynch's birthday, I always show my grade 6 class Cooper's first dream, the famous one. (A regular such-and-such-was-born-or-died-on-this-day thing I do in my classroom. Usually it's Einstein, MLK, etc.) I show it for the weirdness; it's basically pretty innocuous. A couple of years, I've thrown in a second clip, the sequence where Ronette Pulaski comes out of her coma. Watching it this year I thought, "That's the last time for that." A big part of my rationale has been that it was a network TV show that aired in prime-time 20 years ago, but that's not good enough. That sequence is just too intense--and, same point, I can't believe it aired on broadcast TV.

Oof, yeah, good call on Ronette's awakening. I could see that being pretty upsetting/potentially trigger to some kids. Shit, to some adults.

I absolutely love that you celebrate David Lynch's birthday with your sixth grade students, though. That is totally awesome.

I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV!

yeah this was genuinely shocking when it aired.

and its funny because there isn't anything in it that's particularly censor-worthy - there's no nudity, no gore, no swearing. but the WAY in which the attack is shot and the context for the action make it totally horrifying

Yeah. Absolutely the most horrifying broadcast television scene I've ever seen.

btw I heart my local video store - next weekend they are having a Twin Peaks marathon starting Saturday at noon and going through Sunday night (they encouraged people to bring sleeping bags lol) I am thinking of stopping by with some coffee and donuts

Just finished watching the whole thing since first seeing it in college. Gotta share some thoughts. First - I love that it ends with Bob-in-mirror/graphically bloody 'Coop' cliffhanger - PERFECT! It just sticks with ya. I mean think about it. When Coop goes into the Sycamore circle and into the 'black lodge' curtain - who is called / brought to Major Briggs in the diner to communicate what is happening in the black lodge? - why none other than Sarah Palmer! Here's my theory - the evil goings on of the black lodge are an infinite loop in the Twin Peaks community. Dale Cooper sees (possessed doppelganger) Leland in the Black Lodge - just as he sees a doppelganger of himself. I believe that once upon a time Leland saves Sarah from the black lodge in the past and that is why she can still communicate with its goings on when Coop is present there. Leland may have saved Sarah only at the expense of Laura/Maddy - just like Coop saves Annie only at the expense of being co-opted by 'Bob' and the assumptive future action of possible killing while being possessed by 'Bob' ... I need to find some good books and/or internet write-ups on all things Twin Peaks - any suggestions?

WHERE'S ANNIE?

Geez, you could really go to town with that...I think I'd drop by the store dressed up in one of Windom Earle's get-ups, drop a big side of lamb on the counter Jerry Horne-style (or whatever kind of meat it was he brought back from one of his trips), flash the secret One-Eyed Jacks handsign, and finish off with a little Lelandesque dance.

lol yeah I should just find the biggest sandwich I can and bring that

put a dish of creamed corn on the formica table

murder a teenager and wrap her in plastic

ha...ho?

too much is said about coffee and cherry pie and not enough is said about putting four-dozen donuts in a neat grid across an entire table

Ha! I just noticed for the first time of many viewings that when Cooper is waiting at The Roadhouse for Sherriff Truman to accompany him to 1EJ's to deliver the ransom for kidnapped Audrey, he has a neat pyramidal pattern of peanuts and peanut shells laid out in front of him on the bar. I'll try to find a screencap for you sexyDancer.

in polethine, iirc

and finish off with a little Lelandesque dance.

jerry's accompanying dance during "little lambs eat ivy" is A+++