Which is the worst state in the United States of America

including a ghost town that has been on fire underground for decades.

That would be Centrailia

i've been there, that's eastern pa. though. is there another one?

or does all the rest of pa that's not philadelphia count as western?

this is easy, Wisconsin

tho that is my UP bias talking but still, so much cowshit

or does all the rest of pa that's not philadelphia count as western?

― this is awful I want Togo home (harbl), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:23 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

more like the rest of pa that's not philadelphia doesn't count!!

hurrr

more like the rest of pa that's not philadelphia doesn't count!!

except Pittsburgh ... which actually really IS a pretty nice place. time hasn't been kind to a lot of the surrounding old steel mills towns (like McKeesport), though.

have never been to Pittsburgh. I do like how PA's character changes utterly as you drive towards the middle. feels like its own country. spent a summer at penn state and boy it was weird.

Is it Alabama? It's the first choice, maybe it's that easy

Which state spawned the snorg girl?

Probably NJ or IN

Not enough of this thread has been devoted to discussing the wretched Pennsylvania

Poconos, bitches. Don't you ppl like to go outside?

I dare any of you to spend a year in Nebraska.

I dare any of you to spend a year in Nebraska.

Spent two weeks near Crawford, Nebraska digging up fossils. Liked Nebraska a lot and will defend it here.

Will either vote Iowa or Indiana here.

this is easy, Wisconsin

― i am under no illusions that my opinions are even that interesting to me (dan m), Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Come on. Visit Madison and get back to me.

back to PA: there is something uniquely depressing about those old steel-mill/coal-mining towns that have been gutted by economic changes from the 70s onwards. esp. if you are old enough to remember a city like Allentown before it really hit the skids. and reading may be one of the most depressing places in the USA -- it's become crack/meth heaven in the middle of Amish Country.

Allentown's like 30-40 miles from Amish Country, tho

oh i see

you didn't capitalize Reading--i was reading too fast

anyway, i've spent time in the Allentown area and it doesn't seem that much more depressing than say, Gary Indiana (which seems much more depressing)

but Gary is the gold standard for depressing, failed industrial towns

yes but did it not also spawn world-famous singer and guitarist toriano "tito" jackson?

(rhetorical question, you don't have to answer)

From the latest o_0 mailout I got from Feministing - it has to be Utah, for attempting to criminalise miscarriage. Um. I can't make my emoticon go o_0 enough for that.

wait waht

that can't be right

okay, based on what I've been able to find about this, saying that this bill criminalizes miscarriage is gross distortion of the bill

having said that, the bill itself is incredibly gross and shouldn't even be under consideration

Yup. Because SOME WOMMENS might be using "miscarriages" as a way of trying to give themselves abortions.

http://www.feministing.com/archives/020151.html

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that's crazy, but it also seems like the kind of thing that will get shot down in court

so looking at this some more, this is totally introducing a massive legal quagmire that is going to haunt women in Utah for years

good job, Utah!

i never planned on going to Utah, anyway. yet another reason why not to do so.

que: i don't doubt that Gary is more depressing than Allentown. i've just never been to Gary, and i've gone to Allentown and other old PA towns a lot since i was a kid so what i was getting at was my own personal experience.

If you don't go to Utah because it has more than its fair share of morans, you're only doing a disservice to yourself.

I was born in Pittsburgh. I come from a long line of steelworkers, my dad being the last of that generation. Pittsburgh, and its surrounding areas, were kind of drab. But I heard the city has changed since I moved in '82. I read in some money magazine, maybe Fortune, maybe Forbes, that Pittsburgh is one of the least hit by the economic crises of all the major cities in the US.

**was kind of drab**

I was recently in Pittsburgh and, while I couldn't really figure out what business were there that were keeping the city running, it had way more of a carefree sports party vibe than I was expecting. I'd love to go back during football season.

Big businesses here are UPMC, Highmark insurance and the universities. Alcoa, PPG, Bayer and a bunch of other materials companies have presence here but not in the city, this means the city has almost no business tax base.

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ed u forgot US STEEL

I didn't forget US Steel, it hardly classes as major industry round here, the US Steel Tower has UPMC on the top of it nowadays.

cultural activity is limited to setting fire to things after steelers/pens games

plus the symphony

violins make good kindling, its true.

cultural activity is limited to setting fire to things after steelers/pens games

ok see now this makes me pretty enamored w/ your fine city

also there are pierogies

unfortunately, there is also scrapple

fortunately, there is Primanti Brothers

lol at minnesotans zinging other ppl's food

when ppl with bad food tell you "wow, that piece of cuisine you have is really bad", you should feel ashamed IMO

also lutefisk is almost completely offset by the MN State Fair "everything fried and on a stick" style of cooking

what the HELL is wrong with scrapple?!?!?

is that a serious question max??????

http://www.phoodie.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/scrapple.jpg

it looks like old spam

there's nothing wrong with scrapple

who cares what it LOOKS like

it is not ART