Which is the worst state in the United States of America

but Gary is the gold standard for depressing, failed industrial towns

yes but did it not also spawn world-famous singer and guitarist toriano "tito" jackson?

(rhetorical question, you don't have to answer)

From the latest o_0 mailout I got from Feministing - it has to be Utah, for attempting to criminalise miscarriage. Um. I can't make my emoticon go o_0 enough for that.

wait waht

that can't be right

okay, based on what I've been able to find about this, saying that this bill criminalizes miscarriage is gross distortion of the bill

having said that, the bill itself is incredibly gross and shouldn't even be under consideration

Yup. Because SOME WOMMENS might be using "miscarriages" as a way of trying to give themselves abortions.

http://www.feministing.com/archives/020151.html

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that's crazy, but it also seems like the kind of thing that will get shot down in court

so looking at this some more, this is totally introducing a massive legal quagmire that is going to haunt women in Utah for years

good job, Utah!

i never planned on going to Utah, anyway. yet another reason why not to do so.

que: i don't doubt that Gary is more depressing than Allentown. i've just never been to Gary, and i've gone to Allentown and other old PA towns a lot since i was a kid so what i was getting at was my own personal experience.

If you don't go to Utah because it has more than its fair share of morans, you're only doing a disservice to yourself.

I was born in Pittsburgh. I come from a long line of steelworkers, my dad being the last of that generation. Pittsburgh, and its surrounding areas, were kind of drab. But I heard the city has changed since I moved in '82. I read in some money magazine, maybe Fortune, maybe Forbes, that Pittsburgh is one of the least hit by the economic crises of all the major cities in the US.

**was kind of drab**

I was recently in Pittsburgh and, while I couldn't really figure out what business were there that were keeping the city running, it had way more of a carefree sports party vibe than I was expecting. I'd love to go back during football season.

Big businesses here are UPMC, Highmark insurance and the universities. Alcoa, PPG, Bayer and a bunch of other materials companies have presence here but not in the city, this means the city has almost no business tax base.

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ed u forgot US STEEL

I didn't forget US Steel, it hardly classes as major industry round here, the US Steel Tower has UPMC on the top of it nowadays.

cultural activity is limited to setting fire to things after steelers/pens games

plus the symphony

violins make good kindling, its true.

cultural activity is limited to setting fire to things after steelers/pens games

ok see now this makes me pretty enamored w/ your fine city

also there are pierogies

unfortunately, there is also scrapple

fortunately, there is Primanti Brothers

lol at minnesotans zinging other ppl's food

when ppl with bad food tell you "wow, that piece of cuisine you have is really bad", you should feel ashamed IMO

also lutefisk is almost completely offset by the MN State Fair "everything fried and on a stick" style of cooking

what the HELL is wrong with scrapple?!?!?

is that a serious question max??????

http://www.phoodie.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/scrapple.jpg

it looks like old spam

there's nothing wrong with scrapple

who cares what it LOOKS like

it is not ART

weirdly, i don't think i've actually had scrapple. but i do love my corned beef hash

someone's fired up about scrapple

its just... why would you hate SCRAPPLE of all things

maybe you don't know what scrapple is

i wanna know what scrapple is

i want you to show me

p sure i know what scrapple is bro

i grew up in a scrapple state

The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf,

ok among other things harbl you dont like bacon

you also are a frequent poster on the nutrition nazi thread

so

i also don't like mushes formed into a loaf

I love scrapple.

harbl you didn't like coffee until recently--how can we trust you

sCRAPple

At a restaurant here in Chicago, I had a version of scrapple that they created. But it didn't have head, heart, liver, and other scraps. They used like, normal parts of the pig. It was not up to par.

¿que i have liked coffee a long time?

scrapple more like crap hole

harbl more like hair balls