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7) lowest possible carbs after 5pm

oof, what's the science behind this? im a sucker for having 11pm sandwiches and similar. what's a good suppery snack to have instead?

and BLAM, all the best with your plans. your goals seem really similar to mine when i began, but don't try to do too much at once, bring it in slowly then it doesn't seem like such a steep curve. this thread (and a cpl of the others about gym routines) should prove invaluable, i've found AA's support and advice especially helpful.

one of the most helpful things should be counting calories, once you start logging the calorie and fat content of your meals you'll soon start eating better. you might need more than 1500 seeing as you're a tall guy, so don't feel guilty about going up to 1700-1800 some days.

and finally, good luck! if you have any questions just ask here and i'm sure someone will be able to help. in all my years of reading ilx these threads have added more joy to my life than any others, hope the same happens for you!

The WW line is that you want to stop eating 3H before bedtime, as that's how long it takes to digest your food, then your body can go on burning fat cals whilst you sleep.

Yeah.

oof, what's the science behind this?

You don't burn off anything while you're asleep. Loading on carbs before lying down for 8 hours means it all piles on as fat etc.

im a sucker for having 11pm sandwiches and similar. what's a good suppery snack to have instead?

Anything protein-rich and low-carb should satiate you. So no bread or rice or pasta. Grilled giant mushrooms are ace.

protein and healthy oils help to make you feel full(er). go for 2 tsp/day of olive oil.

more tips for suppery snacks please!

also, what is the difference in effect on your body between eating 100 calories worth of crisps and 100 calories worth of apple a day?

For one thing, 100 cals of apple will give you far more energy, along with all the vitamin bits.

Currently down to 230 lbs and change. Been sick since thursday, and unseasonably cold & rainy weather has put the kibosh on my usual night biking.

ok my update, down about 20 pounds from mid-january. i've had a few nice comments this last week or so, a suspicious "you're looking thin..." (as in they think im using drugs or cheating somehow) and a few wow you've lost weight, so that's all great. even my skin is better and ive not been sweating as much. feeling so healthy and energetic, except ive been getting mildly ill every few weeks but i think that's down to something unrelated to diet/exercise.

i've stopped the calorie counting now, as my bmi is about 22 and im feeling good. my eating habits are much better now, it's totally ingrained in my mind not to pig out on crisps or weekly takeaways and such. sticking to the 3xgym per week (how *good* does food taste after a workout, esp if its mega healthy like veg & fish), and hoping to get down another 7 pounds or maybe another full stone. probably won't come to that though, realistically i think i'll level out after losing a cpl more pounds, but that's great - esp as i bought a whole new set of clothes the other week and don't want to have to do that again anytime soon.

best thing ilx ever did: helped me not to be a fattey

i am going to a trainer for the first time: i have dropped my BMI by .78 in the first two weeks of work, as well as six pounds of quick fat.

six days of gym each week: 500 calories @ 130BPM x 3, and 3x weight routine.

my dad and stepmom came to visit tonight, so we went out for a big dinner. then i got back and my neighbors were having the first grill-out of the year, and i couldn't resist. so tonight i ate:

a bunch of mussels
fries ('frites')
bread
1/2 patty melt
crab cake
cheese cake
Anchor Steam
Dogfish IPA

and then for dessert

large burger
ear of corn
Lazy Mutt Ale x2

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also, if the ultimate goal is weight loss i do not understand why it is better to do 500 calories of walking on a treadmill (+/- one hour at 130 BPM) as my trainer suggests, versus the 870 calories of elliptical workout (+/- one hour at 175 BPM) as i would do on my own.

can somebody explain?

Job security.

what is the difference in effect on your body between eating 100 calories worth of crisps and 100 calories worth of apple a day?

Arseloads of salt and saturated fat.

Sooo good to hear you've come so far btw.

remy: nfi. What's elliptical again?

remy, she's trying to keep you in the fat-burning zone of heart rate rather than the cardio building zone.

So, thanks to being at work for two weeks straight practically and running to opera rehearsals in my spare time, I've lost 10 pounds.

^ brilliant

so i am 18 lbs lighter than when i started, and my belly-fat package is riding higher-up on my abs (which, apparently, i have begun to develop) ... but somewhat strangely, my waist size (32) has not diminished at all.

last time i weighed what i now do, my waist was a definite 30.

176 - 18 = 158 lbs.

I've quit smoking and rather than gain an appetite, I've lost it, which is great as I could do with losing about a stone or so. I was very surprised really. Giving up smoking has also coincided with giving up buying cheese which I was always partial to having a nibble at when bored. I guess it's all a discipline issue really - giving up one thing has taken a lot of self control and now I'm less inclined to pig out, and more inclined to workout. I've noticed minimal effect on how my body looks (I don't really weigh myself) but there is some improvement I think :-)

So much goodness in this thread.

I've been stuck around 230 for almost 4 weeks now. Only dropped a quarter pound in the last week, but i drank a lot, didn't bike too much, so there you go. Less than 2 lbs from my 10% goal.

It always slows down. That first chunk almost falls off and the last takes ages.

Yes, but I am also a lazy drunk. So there ya go.

i have worked out for at least an hour every day since i last posted, eaten less than 1600 calories without exception (30% by volume in proteins, 120% USRDA fiber) and still i have gained 6 pounds.

my love handles are shrinking though. i credit the tri-dips and captain's chair, which has become my most loved/hated piece of equipment.

monday is my one month check-in; i'll see what part of my 17.7% body fat still remains.

Sounds like that extra weight is largely new muscle.

After weeks of plateau, finally lost a bit more and am down to 227, for the first time in 7 years. I hit my 10% loss goal. Hooray.

I followed a 3 hour, 46 mile cycle with: crisps, chips with mayo, pork scratchings, sausages and FOUR slices of chocolate cake :(

be sure to drink your water.

yay kingfish

some shitty stuff happened in my life and the air con broke downat the gym during the hottest week of the year. :-( :-( hence i've not done much exercise :-(

Go for bike rides instead; saves your joints.

here is my weight progress during the past eight weeks:

178 --> 172 --> 166 --> 158 --> 164 --> 172

and i am really fucking frustrated, because of how little i am eating (and how carefully, to get my proteins, fibers, fats) and how much i am working out. i am allowing the possibility that i have gained a lot of muscle, given the 50-60 minute resistance routine i do 6x/weekly, but i kinda think that cutting out my cardio in exchange for this resistance (or downgrading it from 3000 c./week to 1500 c./week) was an epic mistake.

plz assess my old routine vs my new one?

old routine
heavy cardio (e.g. 950c. exercise M-W-F) / heavy weightlifting
Tue-Thu-Sa)

new routine
250 cardio every day & heavy upper body weightlifting and resistance (M-W-F) / heavy lower body weightlifting and resistance (Tue-Thu-Sa)

6 hours of resistance a week sounds like overtraining to me. What/how are you lifting?

have you been measuring your waist circumference? if you're weight training , this is a good idea. i mean, it's been said before, but if your pants are fitting better, if you can actually see more muscle, how much does the scale really matter?

i have lost like 5 lbs in the past 2 wks b/c of my 40-min-each-way bike commute. which is in turn making me pay more attn to what i eat and when. also it is no longer winter. all of this is good.

i am doing an interval strength training. the 'heavy day' routine from my trainer:

3 x 15 pushups
8 x 12 toe-elevator-thingies on the stairs (i like these a lot)
3 x 1 minute planks
3 x 12 leg lifts in captain's chair
9 x 12 leg press @ 70lb. (3 sets w. feet shoulder distance apart, 3 w. feet pressed together, 3 w. feet extended as far as possible)
3 x 12 assisted dips @ 90 lb
3 x 12 assisted pullups @ 90 lb
3 x 12 lateral pulldowns @ 50 lb
3 x 12 chest press @ 65 lb (this is the hardest for me)
3 x 12 ball crunches (upper), 3 x 12 ball crunches (lower)
3 x 12 wall sits /hammer curl @ 15x2 lb
3 x 12 skullcrushers @ 20 lb
3 x 12 (ea. arm) side lifts (lean to the side, stand up straight, repeat) @ 15 lb
3 x 12 (ea. leg) mountaineers
20 reclining leg lifts

3 x 12 lunges w. 20 lb. weight over head

Oh ok. Personally, I think interval strength training is mostly just good at keeping you in the gym 6 hours a week... Is it really more than just cardio? You *are* targeting a lot of individual muscles, which is a good thing, but are you getting significantly stronger? Have your weights gone up? Are you building new muscle? You're resting each muscle group a lot going through each interval, but I feel like you're doing too many reps of too little weight. Yeah, you're doing 9 sets of 12, but 70lb leg presses is a joke. You should be doing at least your body weight.

If you weren't doing anything at all prior to 8 weeks ago, this is a fair way to get you warmed up - using the equipment, practicing form, breaking yourself in - but I think it's probably time you moved to fewer sets, fewer reps, and probably significantly more weight. Go slow, with a 4 count on the up motion and the down motion, and if you can do more than 12 reps in a set, increase the weight. I'd try alternating between your current sessions and heavier, shorter sessions to shake things up and see how things feel.

Kerm is otm here.

If you want strength, do high weights and low reps. If you want size, do low weights and high reps. Don't do low weights and low reps because you will actually be wasting your time.

At the end of your last set for each exercise, regardless of the type of weight training you're doing, you MUST be rooted. This is the best and only way to get significant results. You need to feel as though you've completely fucked your muscles. My leg presses are over 400lb, and my legs are not even that strong. Sorry but 70lb won't do a thing. Honestly. Walking up stairs will give you a better workout than 70lb, unless you weigh less than 70lb.

btw I'm not advocating injuring yourself. Build up to the heavier weights. On legs, though. you should have no trouble doing more than 150lb right now.

dieting is hard. i have like 2 more weeks. yuck

and then what?

Back on the cakes.

hahaa NO! after the diet my plan is start a healthy protein rich regimen.

diet-->diet

haha i know. well i'm one of these ppl that looks good really skinny! it sucks tho cuz i love the weight on my face, just not on my hips :/

I want to calorie count, but I cook from fresh and I don't bother measuring unless it's baking. So I basically can't be arsed.

I gained nearly 20 lbs since last year and it won't come off. I've made it a point to be more active and to eat less crap, but still no result. I was on Weight Watchers 2 years ago and it really worked, but the food kinda sucked.

ok i'm still goin. i think i've figured out if i can get past the 4th day i'm good.