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― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link
i like jackson browne's first four records.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:39 (twenty years ago) link
*may actually have been in Fast Times at Ridgemont High
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link
Was definately in FTARH. (oh yeah)
― nickn (nickn), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago) link
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― piscesboy, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
phoebe cates looks a lot like our felicity redwell! (also both have asian and eastern european ancestry!)
― the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Monday, 2 March 2009 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I can see that!
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 2 March 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link
to wit:
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/c/phoebecates/photos/phoebe-cates-002.jpg
― the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Monday, 2 March 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, nobody's called me by my full alias in years.
― felicity, Monday, 2 March 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Rathbone
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Is that character Damone's friend who has the crush on Jennifer Jason Leigh?
― ENBB, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, he is perhaps the protagonist of the film...
...
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Kind of liked this but kind of surprised at how straight realist it is after all the hype. Def great performances by Penn and Reinhold.
― pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 November 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
I wasn't aware until just now that Lana Clarkson, who plays Mrs. Vargas (Vincent Schiavelli's wife, and responsible for my favourite visual joke of the film), was the woman Spector is in jail for murdering. (If I'd read this thread, I would have known.) Getting old: no one in the theatre except me was laughing when Schiavelli introduced her.
http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/lanaclarkson.jpg
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
It was all downhill for Sean Penn after Spicoli, no? ;-)― helenfordsdale, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (9 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yes and no. He gave a stirring speech at the Academy Awards in defense of Jude Law.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
So is Linda's boyfriend real or not?
― jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 9 October 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link
how does ilx feel about this i presumed it would be a slightly elevated porkys but it was not that
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Friday, 19 May 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
not a period piece cuz i saw it in '82
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
if only life were like the movies
http://imoviequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2-Fast-Times-at-Ridgemont-High-quotes.jpg
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 19 May 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
Your mom
― calstars, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
i don't remember that line
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 19 May 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link
Porkys isnt even in the same universe as this movie.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 20 May 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link
The Last American Virgin is Ratner in a Porky's scenario.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 May 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link
Rewatched this last year, it's a good movie. Best thing about it is Jennifer Jason Leigh, one of the great performances of adolescence.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 20 May 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link
So is Linda's boyfriend real or not?― jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ)
I think so. She does seem genuinely distraught over the alleged break-up--her crying and the letter (or phone call, I forget) she relates to JJL would be a fairly ambitious ruse if it weren't true.
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
i think its pretty clear that he isnt
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
I can't find the clip online, would have to watch it again. I'll concede that you may be right, but I don't think there's anything in there that makes it "pretty clear." What would be the motivation for Phoebe Cates to do that?
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
I suspected that she might have been lying in order to appear sophisticated/experienced/desired until the scene where she was crying over the breakup. That seemed real to me.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
any time asked for specific details shes uncomfortable and eg cant say how long he lasts in bed without trialling answer and awaiting the response, etc etc
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link
I remember one of those lies now--that does cloud the issue. Tried to find some confirmation one way or the other online but couldn't.
Still seems odd that this teenage girl who could reel in exactly the fantasy figure she's made up without much effort (witness the mall-creep who meets up with Stacey) wouldn't just arrange for the real thing. Phoebe Cates wouldn't seem to have to fabricate appearing desirable.
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
recurring theme of cheap talk and nerves at the actual point of fulfillment surely?
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
which is where jjl's character is pretty standout not just in this movie but across most of the genre
I don't think it's an example of the "fake boyfriend" trope, but the "adolescent thinks they have mature adult relationship/partner but actually doesn't" trope. making shit up about how long he lasts in bed=they're mature sexual relationship is fictional, rather than he's fictional
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
the "adolescent thinks they have mature adult relationship/partner but actually doesn't" trope. making shit up about how long he lasts in bed=they're mature sexual relationship is fictional, rather than he's fictional
This was how I saw it.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
Otm
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
if the gag was bf didn't actually exist, this genre of movie would clearly show that to be the case at some point.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
That's more along the lines of what I was thinking--that Linda sees herself in this serious, epic romance, whereas he's about as serious as Stacey's shoe salesman (and that the idea of attending Linda's graduation is ludicrous, not to mention criminal).
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
if yr chasing it that hard then sure the movie doesnt disprove it
imo yr chasing it pretty hard tho
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
an adult viewer (and the adult screenwriter) knows from the beginning that their relationship is going to be shown to be a charade, because unlike a high schooler we know that college kids are 99.9% as immature as high schoolers. we never see the bf, never see how they actually are together, we only get Phoebe's take on it so as to save the "reveal" for the end.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
Well, I don't think she was pretending to cry over the breakup so, at the least, she had to have deluded herself that she was involved with someone and wasn't just making the whole thing up to impress her friend. xp
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
self-styled "mature" high schooler shown to have just as immature relationship issues as all her peers is a teen sociology observation in line with the rest of the film's POV/ethos. self-styled "mature" high schooler is lying about even having a boyfriend doesn't conform to it.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
if you see jjl character as the main one then i think pc's character exists to egg her on by vicarious experience, whether this is hollow by virtue of a shit relationship or a nonexistent one is moot but i disagree that yr interpretation of what the movies ethos is is a stronger basis for divination than the performance/script tbh
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link
In the book Doug is Linda's fiancé who she takes to the Ridgemont High prom... but not before she is unfaithful to him with another character.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
...and then in the epilogue she ends up breaking off the engagement, going to USC and shacking up with her Abnormal Psych professor.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
the adult screenwriter
lol, Crowe was barely 20yoa at the time.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
oh boy sleep that's where I'm a viking
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link
fake lover=let's lol @ this character for pretending to be some sort of cassanova when they spend friday night at home playing role-playing gamesfake mature romantic relationship=let's lol @ this character for thinking they were above the fray of the rest of their peerswhich makes more sense as the "takedown" of Phoebe's character? as has been pointed out she most def could snag a college guy, that is not something she would have to create make-believe about. but she cannot escape being a teenager. that's the "gag". re: genre...this is a teenage comedy. you tend not to have open-ended plot points in them which leave room for jamokes on the internet to debate what REALLY was going on. Director would point out with a flaming neon sign HEY Y'ALL HER BF DOESN'T EXIST, and that never happened.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
Just take her, man.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link
Where'd you get that jacket?
― c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
Criterion!
https://www.criterion.com/films/30464-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
Glad to see that Criterion is continuing to schedule their new release announcements just after I've bought a lower grade copy of the movie in question, hats off to them
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
Can't help thinking of this back-and-forth.
Olivier Assayas Poll
― clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
xpost Your choices help predict their future, for which we all thank you.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
Somebody on Criterion Forum brought up that this edition will be Amy Heckerling's preferred version w/never before seen full-frontal Damone (which was removed at the time to get an R rating).
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
One of the cheerleaders is Bruce Springsteen's sister.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
Sean Penn is now six, seven years younger than Ray Walston was:
https://miro.medium.com/max/700/1*fBnrsL9lBpdoWmn3_m_pqg.jpeg
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
Just looked at the clip Criterion puts up. "This is U.S. history--I see the globe right there."
― clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
Definitely one of those iconic films famous for being one thing (in this case, funny) but in reality being a lot grittier and more depressing than people remember it. See also: Saturday Night Fever, Porky's ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
I can't remember where I read it, and after I read it I couldn't believe that I hadn't noticed it before, but there are no parents in the movie, the kids are all on their own in their teenage world
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Rewatched on big screen today. What struck me was how sweet it is. There's not an unlikeable character in the whole film. It's very bittersweet for me because I started high school in '82 and there's so much shock of recognition in the film. I remember the precise semester when suddenly every other dude was wearing checkerboard pattern Van's slip-ons because of Jeff Spicoli. I remember girls like Phoebe Cates' character who allegedly had a college-age boyfriend but no one ever saw him.
The background detail really floored me. Stupid things, like RC Cola cups.
Made me think 1982 was another planet altogether.
― Josefa, Saturday, 17 September 2022 23:27 (two years ago) link
It's a great, great film. Damone has a couple of moments where you hate him, but I agree, even he patches things up with Ratner in his own way. I've noticed the last couple of years that Spicoli's checkerboard running shoes have made a comeback with intermediate students.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link
Wait, “Another Girl, Another Planet” was on the soundtrack? Oh, I see.
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link
Yes, we see how and why Damone has his moment with Stacy but we also see that he palpably regrets it because he values his friendship with Ratner and his reputation as a straight shooter.
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link
The three girls who look like Pat Benatar, LOL
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
What elevates this film is that is legitimately FUNNY while most teen sex comedies of the ‘80s are simply BONEHEADED
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link
Funny and also more human and sweet like you said.
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link
Thank you. Not to shit on contemporary filmmakers but I can’t imagine a film like this being made today, with no snarkiness or blatant malice in the script. We live in a zero sum world now.
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link
You can't even portray abortion in a mainstream studio movie today.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link
It was a big jolt how casually the abortion topic was dealt with. The big dispute (which was resolved quickly) was about who would pay the $150 for it.
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link
No parents in the movie either
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 September 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link
Which is period accurate
― Josefa, Sunday, 18 September 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link
TIL that Pamela Springsteen played the girl Damone was trying to sell the Cheap Trick ticket to.
― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2024 02:34 (three weeks ago) link
Also lolz:
Expenses:Abortion $75Rod Stewart $60?
Abortion $75Rod Stewart $60?
― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2024 02:36 (three weeks ago) link