― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
no folder monitoring = fuck that
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
i mean it all seems a bit foolish and long way round especially when the actual song files in the folder have track numbers prepended to their filenames already, but iTunes either diregards this or can't figure it out.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Dude, do you want it freaking out every time you download an mp3 automatically?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE DO YOU PEOPLE NOT GET THE IDEA OF METADATA?
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― YOU ARE ALL LIBERAL ARTS IDIOTS (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
TO MY ADVANTAGE
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I meant that it tags things properly when it rips them. It isn't iTunes fault if other programs produce bad unicode tags that it eats. It even provides options for unwrangling them.
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I've solved the problem by not bothering and being like "Haha suckas who download my shit can figure that out."
xpost I get annoyed when it turns up the ones that are like half in Japanese and half in English but neither in a manner that helps you figure out wtf it is!
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
My problem with fixing the tags is that if I rip the album before fixing it manually in the uh rip screen it refuses to let me change the tags later. Like, it'll change it and then when I click to play the song, poof back to gobbledy-gook.
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
i think the way they sort it is hiragana/katakana a-i-u-e-o-ka-ki-ku-ke-ko etc, then by radical; so, you know, unless you happen to know the order of radicals in both languages back-to-front...
― permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Get better music!
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't use retarded computers!
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
i don't know if there's a silent add trick other than dragging and dropping to the library but in any case you can just make a watch folder that does whatever magic is possible with totally minimal applescripting.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Question: I want to show the various metadata screens for a project I am doing. Is there any way to select these and print them out? When I call them up I couldn't find a way to print them out.
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Look at all the hassle and BS people go through with iTunes and ipods, and the entire appeal of a mac is that it's user-friendly even to "liberal arts idiots," who by the way are typically the only people to defend macs.
No possible defense can be made for iTunes run on a PC, it is so shitty that it must be a deliberate attempt to sabotage the PC experience. That attempt, that Ned linked to above, to keep Apple from forcing ipod users to install TEH HATED ITUNES and KEEP THE ENTIRE HUGE IPOD PLAYLIST STORED ON THE HD EXACTLY AS IS is amazing. If it ever comes to it, though, I think Apple would rather lose the entire European market than give consumers any kind of freedom.
― richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Basically when you install iTune+quicktime, you are installing a large chunk of OS X lots of the Carbon and Cocoa APIs), every update includes any updates and bugfixes to these chunks of OS X, I guess they figure it is better to reinstall from scratch every time than to patch.
It is a bugger though.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
folder monitoring doesn't have to be instantaneous! DO YOU NOT GET THE IDEA OF SCHEDULED TASKS
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/itinfo/folderaction01.php
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Try using the Mac version of Windows Media player! That may be the worst "media" software ever.
That attempt, that Ned linked to above, to keep Apple from forcing ipod users to install TEH HATED ITUNES and KEEP THE ENTIRE HUGE IPOD PLAYLIST STORED ON THE HD EXACTLY AS IS is amazing.
Uh, you can manually move stuff to the iPod inside iTunes. USE 1 BRANE MORAN
If it ever comes to it, though, I think Apple would rather lose the entire European market than give consumers any kind of freedom.
Dude, you can still do whatever you want with all your DRM-free music. Do you really think the DRM music from anyone else is any better? At least Apple Music Store works on more than one platform!
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah really, this is total delusional talk. There are programs that fix your filenames for you, ie FileRenamer. Tagging is no more reliable than filenaming, and just confuses things when it comes to filesharing.
Did you read what I wrote upthread?ARTIST: At the DriveSONG: In-One Armed Scissor
BAD BAD BAD SOLUTION.
iTunes will rename the filenames and manage the folder hierarchy to keep it in line with the metadata store if you let it. There is no problem.
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
You know, they ARE programmers. If this were to be integrated into iTunes, they could make it do it right :)
That isn't folder monitoring. Monitoring is either instantaneous or happens over a very short cycle time via something like Linux's FAM. If you want the batch task sort of behavior, there's all kinds of applications to let you do that. Now, sometimes I am actually doing something intensive on my computer and I wouldn't want iTunes import to take up any memory or cpu (unlike you sad people who spend your lives in Word and complaining that iTunes is too hard) so I wouldn't want this kind of thing.
FOLDER ACTIONS!!!!
The problem with Folder actions is that the actions only register from Finder actions IIRC. This means that file transfer programs will not register events upon download completetion.
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― My faxed joke won a pager in the cable TV quiz show. (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
haha jon that's not true at all! neither winamp nor foobar define folder monitoring as instantaneous or short-cycled; they're totally customizable. hence my point uptop that if you wanted to curtail the computer hiccuping every five minutes, you could set it to monitor every 24 hours so it functions more like a scheduled task.
i'm sorry that you don't think that's what folder monitoring is, but each program i mentioned calls that customizable feature "folder monitoring", as do most of these people.
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link