Season 2 is on On Demand right now.
Uhm, where? Online or do you have better cable than me?
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 March 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link
skyler starts out horribly but after a couple of three episodes it became clear to me that she really does love walt, and thereafter i was totally on her side about pretty much everything despite her being walt's main "obstacle" to geting what he wants - it's a weird and unsettling dynamic
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"It seems like most of the women (Skyler's sister, Jane, random methheads) all just end up being evil bitches."
Really? That's not how I read Skyler or Skyler's sister or for that matter Gretchen at all. The final episode of Season 2, it's hard to see how your sympathy is supposed to be anywhere but with Skyler (annoying or not).
Jane, random methheads sure they are evil bitches, but it's not like the methhead guys are great shakes either.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
this show fucks w/you cause walt is the hero even tho objectively hes doin v bad things
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
thus the v reasonable ordinary reactions of skylar et al are seen as impinging on walts freedom
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Season 2 is on On Demand right now. Love this show.
― Darin, Friday, March 12, 2010 3:48 PM
yup gonna do a marathon seeing as its raining buckets all weekend
― am0n, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
exactly. it's not even because we agree with what Walt's doing. it's because, as viewers, we want the show to keep going into unpredictable, exciting, and bizarre places - where as all Skyler wants is normalcy & stability. if the show was done from Skyler's perspective, with us only knowing what she knows, it would be depressing Lifetime Network stuff.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I just have Comcast cable. It's under On Demand here: TV Entertainment > AMC > Breaking Bad
― Darin, Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i like the brother in law too and would like s3 to switch to him as a main character hustling after walt on the run
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno rockapads - what i want more than anything is for walt to finally come clean and then skyler join him bonnie and clyde style.. but that ain't never gonna happen
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't necessarily disagree with you guys, especially about how Skyler is supposed to be somewhat unlikeable due to audience expectation and supporting the antihero main characters, akin to what rockapads is saying. But the way the show has been moving, the main characters, Jesse and Walt, and have always have their core negative traits (stupidity/shortsightedness and pride/abusive/vindictive/vicious) while also getting a lot of sympathetic breaks as well. The second season I think really continued to make them deeper, more fleshed out characters, going back and forth constantly on that balance.
But with Skyler, the writers must've thought she was TOO sympathetically written in the first season, since this time around they made her even more "pregnant TV wife" annoying. I will give them points for doing that angle where she figured out the accounting scam (thus setting up her smarts and the great confrontational scene in the last episode), but between her general harpy nature, that bit where she was smoking (WTF) and the revelation that she was flirting with her ex-boss which led to the "sexual harassment" claim in her past, I felt they were trying to escalate how irritating she was. Of course a lot of the character's anger is justified, no doubt, but the way it's directed or written kept bugging me. I hope they do a better job with her this year.
― Nhex, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
see, I guess I have a different perspective. as much as I have liked Walt, I think he has pretty much gone from anti-hero to villain at this point. he is more despicable and less sympathetic than Tony Soprano was for me - at least in the first few seasons. I agree that Skyler is kind of annoying, and maybe not as deep as she could be, but I think they did a great job toward the end of that last season of tilting my sympathies away from Walt and toward her.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 14 March 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I found it... Comcast's menu system is so ridiculous.
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 14 March 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link
on my on-demand there's an episode missing (number 7), wtf
― am0n, Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
just watching this again...how would jane's blackmail have been any way effective? if she told the papers or police about walt he'd incriminate jessie too surely?
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
She could tell Walt's wife.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
well she did threaten to call the papers specifically...
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
is the stuck in the desert w/ dead battery episode the "pine barrens" of breaking bad?
― ☀☃ (am0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
does not involve 'universal remote' or even 'docking station' so
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 March 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
so..........
― ☀☃ (am0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/03/17/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-season-three
Interview w/Vince Gilligan, mostly talking about the second season finale. Interesting in that it basically does confirm that overall, Walt already is/will be tipping really far over into the evil category (though he and Cranston don't necessarily agree, lol) though for Jesse, it's not quite so, he hints that it might not be the case by the end of this season...
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
jane was full of guff but walt doesn't know how to play hardball
I was trying to put that as a poker analogy but I don't know enough about poker
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 March 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, no one really knew what they were doing in that situation. They are all amateurs.
― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Friday, 19 March 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link
All of the cast expressed surprise at Gilligan's assertion during the panel they did earlier that day that Jesse Pinkman was actually the moral center of the show. Paul was also surprised, but he could see where that assessment of his character came from.
― Nhex, Friday, 19 March 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
What is wrong with you? Why are you BLUE?
― Jeff, Saturday, 20 March 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm a blowfish.
― Jeff, Saturday, 20 March 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFyB3UZlVDw
― ☀☃ (am0n), Monday, 22 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
off to a good start imo
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed
― Nhex, Monday, 22 March 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
All those crawling-through-the-desert folks = even more mysterioso than last season's floating teddy bear
― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 22 March 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Some explanation on that:http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/10/081110fa_fact_guillermoprieto?currentPage=4
On the first day of every month, at the Tepito metro stop in downtown Mexico City, a new breed of pilgrim can be observed inching his way on his knees out of the stop and down a filthy market street, and cradling in his arms, babylike, a plastic figure of Death—or Holy Death, La Santa Muerte, as the pilgrims refer to the robed skeleton, who carries, variously, a scythe, a sceptre, a set of scales, or a globe in her (sometimes his) hands. There were dozens of these effigies, borne by crawling men in their teens or early twenties. Tattooed and gaunt, they were dressed in black T-shirts with the sleeves ripped off and wore chains around their necks and silver skulls, like brass knuckles, on their fingers.Their goal was some four blocks distant, in the heart of Tepito, a legendary neighborhood that in the centuries since the Spanish Conquest has remained stubbornly insubordinate. Venders were everywhere along the pilgrims’ path, hawking T-shirts and baseball caps and medals decorated with the Santa Muerte.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
walt jr said "bullshit"
― iiiijjjj, Monday, 22 March 2010 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, i noticed that too! apparently getting more lax on their censorship of doity woids.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
So anyway, by posting a picture of Heisenberg at that Death Shrine it's not clear if the twins were praying for aid to find walt or to kill him.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link
guessing they're tuco-related somehow
― ☀☃ (am0n), Monday, 22 March 2010 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link
assembly scene was next-level. I love this show.
― Simon H., Monday, 22 March 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the assembly scene isn't something you'd see on many tv shows.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 22 March 2010 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
loved walt's response to the kid's bullshit story about seats with human legs on his neighbors lawn
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
The assembly scene was way too long. Lots of Curb Your Enthusiasm awkwardness stuff in this episode that I don't remember from earlier seasons.
― Dan I., Monday, 22 March 2010 07:17 (fourteen years ago) link
well the first season was about a pathetic man dealing with his impending death, now it's about an insane person trying to be drug kingpin, schoolteacher and family man.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 22 March 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
― iiiijjjj, Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:57 PM
"nobody's tellin me jackshit"
― ☀☃ (am0n), Monday, 22 March 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the 2 mexican guys are cheesy so far. too calm and matrix-esque about their violence and explosions
― ☀☃ (am0n), Monday, 22 March 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
they r COLD BLOODED do u c
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah jackshit my bad
yeah the mexican mercedes twins were embarassingly comic book even before they walked away from the explosion without looking back at it
also noticed that the front of the rehab clinic where walt picked jesse up looked suspiciously similar to the front of the airport where jesse picked walt up
― iiiijjjj, Monday, 22 March 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
thought it was a brilliant episode...even if the mexicans are a bit clichéd. was trying to suspend disbelief. find it interesting how walt's attempts at being normal now become this sort of deranged parody of who he was at the start, the sort of geeky "1960s technology" stuff that just isn't him anymore.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 22 March 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
"i'm the bad guy" is some serious scarface shit. i was expecting it from Hank, not Pinkman.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Loved it. I wonder what mr chickens offer would have been. Maybe putting him up in this sweet meth cooking resort so he could cook for 3 months.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm gonna bet we're gonna find out
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, I wonder how long the stuffed toy eyeball is going to be around. Sitting under Walt's bed right now.
Since they did the thing last season with the black and white teasers and episode titles (Seven Thirty-Seven Down Over ABQ), I'm really looking for clues as to what is going to happen this season.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Might be a waste of time. Vince Gilligan said at the PaleyFest panel the other week that they weren't going to repeat themselves in that manner, one and done.
― Jouster, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link