Haruki Murakami

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yeah might have to have a re-read of Underground

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 July 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
So obviously he's addictive. Everyone I know who reads Murakami becomes addicted to him. My experience is confined to reading the Wind-UP Bird Chronicles, Sputnik Sweetheart, and watching the elephant vanishes. BUt I'd be curious about other people's reactions--not why you like Murakami, but what specifically makes you a Murakami addict.

For example, he's definitely much easier to read than the typical postmodern writer and his lyricism has an awkwardness to it that makes it more digestible than poetry, maybe like Kurt Vonnegut. And he seems to combine pulp forms (sex! what happened to the girl!) to give the reader something to be interested in, so the novel goes by much faster than if it were just quirky surrealism.

kenchen, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

kafka was... disappointing.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
so i read my first murakami, dance dance dance, last month for my book group. i was expecting to love it, given what i'd heard about it. instead, i really hated it: the surrealist touches were either thuddingly obvious or 'wackily' contrived; the attempts at revelation and meaning made me cringe; the 'mystery' lost all momentum midway through the book (i think the only point at which i cared about it was after the girl in the hotel told her story); the sheepman is one of the worst inventions in modern literature; the narrator is an extremely tiresome person to be around. it bore similarities to what david mitchell's number 9 dream would be like if it was really boring and conventional.

any defenders?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

not round my way

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah but dance dance dance
is not the right place to start
as it's not that strong

lex if I were you
I would try norwegian wood,
hard-boiled wonderland

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not reading norwegian wood, i have had it up to here with people lionising the beatles.

murakami reminds me a little of nick hornby urgh!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 5 January 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Norwegian Wood is good, and not much to do with the Beatles if I remember rightly. Sputnik Sweetheart also good. But I have a harder time with his more wackily surreal mystery type novels.

jz, Thursday, 5 January 2006 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What a timely revival, I've just started the Wind Up Bird Chronicle, my first Murakami. I'm enjoying it so far, it's funnier than I expected and there's some nice writing. Some of the narrative non-sequiters remind me of Ishiguro's dreadfully tedious The Unconsoled
, though, which isn't a good sign.

chap who would dare to work for the man (chap), Thursday, 5 January 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

lex otm. i shall doubtless end up reading dance dance dance, though, as i have an inability not to read his books, even though i've only enjoyed one or two of them. i really don't understand why he gets so much love. the wind up bird chronicle in particular is ridiculously overrated.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 5 January 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I rather like him, though the translation sometimes jars a bit. I find the books to have that just keep reading quality (similar to "inability not to read", maybe). I don't know that I'd make any claims for them to be works of great literature, but they're certainly entertaining enough.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 5 January 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

a backlash at last? he's hugely overrated. the books are quite enjoyable but instantly forgettable.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 5 January 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Wind-Up Bird Chronicles is too close to the inside of my own head for me not to love him.

I Am Sexless and I Am Foul (noodle vague), Thursday, 5 January 2006 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

noodle otm heartily and wholly

when i was a kid it used to bug me when people mocked the bands or movies i liked or whatever, now it's really only haruki murakami i'm precious about.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

dance dance dance, last month for my book group. i was expecting to love it, given what i'd heard about it. instead, i really hated it: the surrealist touches were either thuddingly obvious or 'wackily' contrived; the attempts at revelation and meaning made me cringe; the 'mystery' lost all momentum midway through the book (i think the only point at which i cared about it was after the girl in the hotel told her story);

What I really enjoyed wasn't the moments of revelation or the magic realism but the long stretches inbetween where nothing happens except eating, drinking, sleeping, listening to music, etc.. No one (who I've read) really writes that stuff as well as he does.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't remember anything in norwegian wood about the beatles, really. i also found windup bird to be overrated, but only because the ending was so clearly a "to be continued"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe i'm a total idiot, but i'll be very surprised if there's a sequel written.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Norwegian Wood is set in the 1960s, and someone plays "Norwegian Wood" on the guitar a lot (the roommate at the sanitarium?). That's about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Very weird (and wrong) to read Dance Dance Dance first as it's actually the sequel to A Wild Sheep Chase. Personally I really enjoy the time I've spent in Murakami's worlds. His books are calm and unique, but obviously not everybody's cup of tea (what is?).

I'm excited this thread popped up again as it inspired me to check and see his new short story collection Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman has finally got a release date on August 29th

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny that this thread popped up just as I was reading The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle again.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Murakami is very gentle. I only realized this after reading a story of his in Harper's (I think).

youn, Monday, 9 January 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I also read Dance Dance Dance first, btw.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I like to read A Wild Sheep Chase when I'm feeling sorry for myself, and then I read Dance Dance Dance when it's time to stop moping and spring back into action.

I love reading Dance Dance Dance after A Wild Sheep Chase because the same awful stuff keeps happening to the guy that happened in A Wild Sheep Chase, but he has a much different reaction in Dance Dance Dance. Even though for the most part it doesn't seem like it will do much good. His reaction in both books is still basically "fuck it" but he engages instead of disconnecting and the contrast is really uplifting.

Kafka on the Shore is out in paperback, by the way. If not now, soon. When I finish this vampire novel I'm going to reread it.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 9 January 2006 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only read DDD so far, but shall definitely spend more time with HM in the near future.

What I really enjoyed wasn't the moments of revelation or the magic realism but the long stretches inbetween where nothing happens except eating, drinking, sleeping, listening to music, etc.. No one (who I've read) really writes that stuff as well as he does.

OTM. Some amazing writing during those stretches.

Baaderonixx born in Xyxax (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 January 2006 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link

What I really enjoyed wasn't the moments of revelation or the magic realism but the long stretches inbetween where nothing happens except eating, drinking, sleeping, listening to music, etc.. No one (who I've read) really writes that stuff as well as he does.

i thought those bits were even more tedious - they didn't actively make me cringe and throw the book across the room like some of the more, er, contrived sections, but i am not convinced that boring writing is the best way to evoke boring quotidian life. and the narrator is pretty obnoxious to be around - whiny, perpetually self-justifying, completely self-obsessed.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 January 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really love "Underground". It's probably a favourite book of mine at this stage.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 January 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
i just finished kafka on the shore. while it was pretty enjoyable all the way through (except for THAT scene, you can probably guess which if you've read it), i couldn't help feeling like it didn't exactly...add up.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

JD, otm

Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i just finished kafka on the shore. while it was pretty enjoyable all the way through (except for THAT scene, you can probably guess which if you've read it), i couldn't help feeling like it didn't exactly...add up.

I completely agree. I finished this literally two days ago, and while I enjoyed it, I also thought there were a couple things that didn't quite add up. I think he's great though, and I would give my left arm to meet a girl like Midori from Norwegian Wood.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I've found reading his books has been really helpful during difficult emotional stages of my life. His delicate narrative structure and gentle, relaxed writing style seem to help me calm down and organise my thoughts.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman", a collection of short stories, is coming out later this year - July in the UK, August in the US. List of the stories and other details at this fan site.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Thursday, 13 April 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
one year passes...

does anyone know what song's playing on his website?

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/murakami/site_flashforce.php?id=

kamerad, Saturday, 30 August 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.jeffersonrabb.com/

zappi, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks

kamerad, Saturday, 30 August 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Opening an animation studio in LA.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

different murakami

:) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

if only Haruki Murakami would dabble in animation!

What I Talk About When I Talk About Cartoons

henry s, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha, I like my mistake! Let's fuse the two!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

you may be interested in Phil Collins' video installation at the Dallas Museum of Art. wouldn't have pegged the guy for a Smiths fan myself.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Haruki Murakami used to live in Santa Ana, CA about 15 years ago when he was a relative unknown in America.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish the song from Kafka on the Shore was real.

venom boners are totally canon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only read Wind-Up Bird Chronicle (read this 1st, many people have told me it's a good place to start), Hard-Boiled Wonderland... (favorite so far...love that he bought a 6 of Miller High Life for his last moment of consciousness), and Kafka on the Shore (seemed most scattershot of the 3 but also the most emotionally involved). My sister is reading Sputnik Sweetheart right now so I guess that one's next.

venom boners are totally canon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

No one has really noted this on this thread...scenes of violence in his books are among the most graphic and disturbing in anything I've ever read.

venom boners are totally canon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I met Haruki Murakami once and he was an absolute gentleman imho.

ian, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i met him not long after and talked about hard-bop and the tampa bay devil rays. very nice guy.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

im reading his memoir about running, i love it -- helps that im really getting into distance running at the moment

deej, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

When I read it, am I gonna want to run?

Please say no because seriously I hate running so hard.

en i see kay, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Dude in Japan liveblogs reading new novel 1Q84
http://howtojaponese.com/2009/05/29/1q84-liveblog/

viral marketing?

The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link

reading UNDERGROUND made me hella paranoid on the train for weeks afterward.

ian, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link


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