Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

yeah, it is heavy viewing

Yeah, I think one of the most interesting things about FWWM was that it suggested "Bob" may not have been an evil spirit rather than a persona Laura (or Leland, or both) made up in order to explain away how a father could do that to his daughter.

i find fwwm both terrifying and totally hard-viewing. But great. And yeah, in the TV show we're led to believe Leland is innocent, in the film he's not. He may be possessed, but he is aware of what he's doing.

yeah, i noticed that too, the last time i watched FWWM. you get the sense of a man who does horrible things and occasionally experiences remorse, rather than a man who only occasionally recalls what he's actually done.

also: that girl can scream, huh?

yeah, that is annoying. would've been so much cooler if it'd said "Have you seen this man?" over the sketch of Bob.

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:53 AM (2 hours ago)

hah!

even had a bootleg VHS of the pilot.

still have my vhs taped off the one and only time the pilot was shown on .au tv

am o.g. motherfuckers. caught this in its original ABC run in 1990-91. owned the SP VHS tapes, then the EP VHS tapes. even had a bootleg VHS of the pilot. and i have the first issues of the twin peaks fan club newsletter announcing the first convention in snowqualmie (sp?) --in 1991, i believe. i had the laura palmer diaries, the access guide to the town, the cooper tapes book, and the cooper cassette.

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:08 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark

no trading cards, no cred

No action figures, no cred.

michael ontkean is really the forgotten man of this series. guess that's what he gets for playing the straight man to cooper's wackjob.

Let me agree with this, and extend it a bit; I think one of the rock-solid great things throughout the whole run is the friendship/professional camaraderie between Truman and Cooper. It's like something out of a Howard Hawks film--as all the weirdness goes on around them, both the great-weird and the weirdness that goes off the rails, their relationship never wavers. Except maybe once. One of the most disappointing turns in the series for me is the episode where Truman's holed up, drinking and brooding and fulminating about Josie. It seemed really out of character, for starters, but even more than that, it temporarily messed with Truman and Cooper's bond.

Truman/Rosenfield showdowns are among the best scenes in the series imo.

First season was fantastic, and then upon second season begins just to meander with no real direction.

The finale is what I want to see done with Lost.

the scene where coop meets up with truman in the bar to find out who will accompany him on his mission to one eyed jacks to save audrey, and truman reveals that it will be himself and the bookhouse boys was one of the most touching in the series imo

Truman/Rosenfield showdowns are among the best scenes in the series imo.

― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's all about the buildup to the moment when rosenfield gives his speech about pacificism

"Now you listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman.:

That & the "blithering hayseed/chowderhead yokel" rant are like flip sides of a coin (& equally memorable).

The finale is what I want to see done with Lost.

WHERE'S WALT. ha ha ha ha WHERE'S WALT.

no trading cards, no cred

― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:30 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

had those, too.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SEtWtK-nXEI/AAAAAAAAD2k/xj0sdpv1SME/s1600-h/393556GMoL_w.jpg

That's photoshopped.

really now?

Yeah, you can tell because it's called "Agent Dale Cooper" instead of "Special Agent Cooper".

He can tell by the pixels, and the fact that he's seen quite a bunch of 'shops in his time..

(We're watching Twin Peaks for the first time and we're on episode 14, I think, the one after the episode where *****SPOILER****** Bob goes to town on Maddy and I cannot believe that aired on broadcast TV! That was fucking brutal and awful and I could never live in that house, shit.)

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Friday, March 19, 2010 9:53 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OK yeah we watched this last night and I don't know how they got away with it either

i was watching that with a friend when it originally aired. we were both 13 or 14. her mom, a very sweet devoutly catholic housewife, walked into the den EXACTLY AT THE SCENE where bob/leland is "dancing" around the living room with a bloodied maddie. her exact, horrified words were: "WHAT are you WATCHING?!?!"

So today marks the 20th anniversary of Twin Peaks' first broadcast. CELEBRATE.

easter sunday 1990 iirc

Damn fine coffee. And hot!

xp It was Easter Sunday, April 8th 1990.

the concentrate they make concentrate from

this thread, during my month or so hiatus from ilx, has become hilarious. i love the discussion of food, and especially food that is not discussed enough, and also just people posting one word or idea one after another, i.e. "fleshworld", or a tiny quote or something. GREAT

my family is so into this show. on easter this year my mom sent me a message talking about how she couldn't believe "TP's 20 years old", nothing about easter. also, amateurist, i too originally watched the whole series in 1990/1...when i was NINE! BOOOYAAAAAAAAAAA

I apologize for posting lots of confusing drunk off-topic comments on this thread a year ago

Now I can cross this thread off my list

You guys have seen these Lynch-directed spots, right? (Apologies if already posted somewhere upthread):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4sBbO3o9zs

it's all about the buildup to the moment when rosenfield gives his speech about pacificism

"Now you listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman.:

this is the best scene ever on tv

i don't think lynch had anything to do w/ those georgia coffee spots.

http://www.lynchnet.com/ads/

ronan otm re: best scene in tv history

haha i also like that ronan and i are the only 2 ppl i know that are fans of albert on facebook

meh, i think i said this on the character poll thread but rosenfeld is kinda jacked by the writers, he's a miserable grump in one episode, the next one he's a treehugging newager in the next, and back and forth depending on the way the wind is blowing. would've liked him treated with a little consistency.

he contains multitudes

meh, i think i said this on the character poll thread but rosenfeld is kinda jacked by the writers, he's a miserable grump in one episode, the next one he's a treehugging newager in the next, and back and forth depending on the way the wind is blowing. would've liked him treated with a little consistency.

― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:23 PM

Sound like he was modelled on David Lynch...

i mean, he is a character with a lot of potential that got short shrift with facetime compared to Harold Smith, Dennis/Denice, and all that garbage.

poor harold.

i liked the harold smith storyline a lot, & i think they used albert p well his weirdness was of a piece 2 me

harold will fuck u up w/ a garden weasel iirc

only the orchids understand his pain

Why was Harold/Laura C-on-T scene cut from FWWM?

I agree with Shasta, Albert was funny as a miserable curmudgeon, but the treehugger revelation made no sense in any way, as cool as his little monologue was. It felt like the whole thing was just played for cheap laughs instead of trying to keep the character consistent.

No way, it took his character to the next level. "Just because you have an unpleasant disposition and dislike people, it is no obstacle to Work."

^ real talk

Only really a problem if you think there is a basic inconsistency between bad personal skills and pacifism. As a pacifist who is also an asshole, I can assure you the two are not irreconcilable.