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this is hilarious! this morning when jon told me how silly the british are about noise, i poo-pooed him, but now i understand. thanks jon, and british people: take a chill pill.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

come on, it's a relatively crowded (by North American standards, certainly) place. with everybody right next to each other, surely people need to be more considerate. besides, one loud party a month is the absolute maximum anyone should have to tolerate.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

It's hilarious until you've lived it monthes on end.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

you know what they say - you cant control what other people do, you can only control your reaction. if yr trying to sleep just buy some freakin ear plugs.

sunny successor (i dont get dirty with the bodies once i kill 'em) (katharine), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(on the other hand, they live in Shoreditch, so maybe any of their neighbours who haven't lived there more than a decade deserve every last decibel)

haha because they've all moved the shoreditch and married all the women and stole all the jobs?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Or buy a phone and call the cops.
(xpost)

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:06 (nineteen years ago) link

hey Hari, which particular rough area of Essex?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I had upstairs neighbors who were really really annoying and a bunch of allergy ridden hippies. I lived on a hall with 3 weed dealers. Whenever someone would smoke weed or cigarettes on the hall, they would call the cops and complain about marijuana. I was woken up 5 times by fucking pigs who wouldn't take "NO GOOD NIGHT" for an answer. Fuck cops and fuck busybody neighbors.

oh noes my weekend is ruined!!


(also they can't possibly be hippies if they don't like weed)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ken, America is full of people who privilege their food intolerances and allergies beyond any reasonable expectation. Many of them are non-smoking hippies.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

People who priviledge their vices above other people's health, classic or dud?

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I am not British, but I live here and I get irritated with my noisy neighbours sometimes too. My theory is that the population is crowded into a relatively small country, so space is a commodity in many parts of the UK. This can make you want to protect your peace and quiet.

But it does feel like a lot of people are missing basic manners. I try to keep relatively quiet, because I know the soundproofing is crap in our building. I don't let my doors slam or run through the halls screeching or writing "drugs R here!!" on the wall when I'm drunk. I don't throw the junk mail I don't want onto the floor. (Someone did this in our building - my boyfriend was so pissed off he cleaned it up himself and it was a whole bin bag full from one flat - wanker...)

We pay a fair whack for living in the centre but sometimes it feels like we're stuck with a bunch of students.

People here can be uptight about things like fences and boundaries too. My mum was visiting and stepped into someone's drive to take a photo so she could get a better shot. The woman came out and bit her head off for daring to venture onto her property.

flats are rubbish, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

agree about "flats are rubbish." in the extremely unlikely event of my making any money out of this bloody book, it'll go towards a house, and probably one a long way away from london.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

If you have a fucking allergy problem, don't live in a building with other people or fucking talk to people rather than fucking calling the cops on them all the fucking time because you're too chickenshit to confront someone about their problems.

And, as I said, I was not smoking weed.

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

a great thread from all

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Except that next doors lad has just got a new girlfriend but hasn't discovered curtains.

Massive dud.

-- mark grout ( .....
You meant classic didn't you?
-- PinXorchiXoR ....

Oh come on, that's the type of situation that is SO EASY to turn into a classic! All you need is a strong light and a makeshift megaphone.
-- The Ghost of Dan Perry ..
And cards with numbers on them, so you can hold up a score btwn 1 and 6 for performance!
-- Trayce (

Yeah yeah, the difference being that they know! blummin exhibitionists.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

HI My name is kate and I am pro-censorship:

These was a reasonable thread at one point:

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(grout xpost)

It lacks a certain decorum.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

No, Jon, I'm just anti-YOU.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't take being criticized! Please delete any post that upsets me!

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you being sarcastic?

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Not even he knows anymore.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link

If you have a fucking allergy problem, don't live in a building with other people or fucking talk to people rather than fucking calling the cops on them all the fucking time because you're too chickenshit to confront someone about their problems.
And, as I said, I was not smoking weed.

if you don't like cops knocking on doors, don't live in the same place as 3 drug dealers?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

what a great sentence.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The sarcasm on this thread has reached such density that it may collapse in itself.

And what a fantastic moment THAT will be...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh do you really THINK SO?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It's funny cause it's true.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

it's funny, full stop.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth, I hope these thoughtless fuckers who have house parties till 7am aren't your friends.

Actually, they're mine ;)

From the outside, it didn't look like there were any neighbours at all. But then they were very stupid indeed to leave all the windows wide fucking open.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, in any case, I lived for a year with a brothel on one side and a mentally ill lady who screamed in the night on the other. We had some great parties.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

waking me

I misread this as wanking. Immediate reaction: stop moaning, you bastardo, he's pleasuring you! ;-)

nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing kills the mood like the neighbors working on their trucks while blasting Mexican dance hall music when you are trying to have early morning sex.
-- jocelyn (nalra...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 11:49 AM. (Jocelyn) (later)

This is magic.

I lived above some depraved people in Paris once who woke my ex-wife and I one night by contriving somehow to shatter their toilet. Usually they awakened us by blasting Frank Zappa and attempting to argue violently over the music. During the day, I smoked hash with them. They were bordering on being completely socially retarded but they were quaint somehow.

Until recently, the neighbor in the building abutting (and a mirror image of ours) us would stay up all night (on speed, we suspected) chattering, crying, screaming or laughing while watching TV, sometimes all of the above. She moved before we had the temerity to call a swat team.

Our new downstairs neighbor, in our 4 person TIC (essentially a co-op) is a nice, warm seeming lady. After her first night, she called to apologize for her girlfriend's dog who had, supposedly barked in the middle of the night. After less than 4 days in the place she asked my gf to (a) walk more softly (we have over 75% of the floor covered in rugs) and (b) close the door more gently when she leaves at 6:40 am. What irked me was that our previous neighbor, with whom we had conversations about sound, never heard us, and our new neighbor, who moved from the burbs, didn't give herself any time to acclimatize herself to her new environment before bitching out.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon. jesus christ. at least half of these people couldn't sleep well right now even if they shot up with horse tranqulizers. have you been paying attention to anything?

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon lives in NOIZELAND where apparently no one has any sensitivity for world events or the goings on of "yoorpeens".

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Kim, that's an interesting line of "reasoning!"


Weren't some of the "Britishes" upthread justifying their rightous middle class agnst by complaining that they lived in the "suburbs"? If so I don't know why "terror anxiety" should be any more applicable to them.

And using "terror" as a justification for inane shit is fucked up to begin with.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Um Jon, people like Kate are extremely stressed because they're personal friends of Liz and are in a great deal of pain right now, and your lame "its just a bit pf PARTYING geez get a life" jibes are a bit rude in the circumstances dont you think?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Or did you actually have no idea what was going on?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, it isn't "terror anxiety". please do yourself a favour, go quietly and actually read the London threads, and then perhaps make some attempt to stop embarassing yourself.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i really don't see how any of what jon says has anything to do with the london threads.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

He's having an unneccesary go at Kate, who has said under the circumstances she's so stressed out she needs sleep and cant get it, etc, and he's acting like she's whining over nothing!

That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lameass.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

it's as "lameass" as constantly complaining about noisy neighbors without actually doing anything about it.

cousin larry bundgee: the next generation, season two (bundgee), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

zzzzzing!

tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Not knowing what the fuck is going on is very noize. Knowing and not caring is even more noize.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, hold up, so how many times did Kate call the cops?

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Trayce, Kate has made it a point to be particularly nasty to me all the time on ILX. I was not aware of any relationship between her and Liz because I don't like her and thus do not keep up on her friendships.

Kate's response to my half-hearted teasing was a little bit... asking for it?


This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.


Oh noes my weekend is ruined!

-- no tech! (hjink...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:45 AM. (ex machina) (later) (link)

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:47 AM. (kate) (later) (link)

And if SHE wants to be offended and explain the circumstances and demand an apology from me, SHE can do so.


That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lameass.

That's kind of a strawman you got there. I think there needs to be consideration both ways! (Boring middle class fux vs. obnoxious drug addict party animals)

Kim, eat a dick. I don't even know who you are.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

WHY would you call the cops when you can complain on the internet and provoke a noize dude?

xpost

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, hold up, so how many times did Kate call the cops complain to the moderators?

xpost

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lamearse.

Seconded. Everyone has a right to have parties etc., but outward hostility toward your neighbours won't do you any favours.

A couple of years ago the people who used to live downstairs used to do this hollering screaming thing. It'd go on for hours. One night they came home at 3am and did it. As revenge I got up at 7am and JUMPED AND BANGED all through the flat for about two hours. Couple of weeks later they moved.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, next time something serious happens to me I'll come to you for help, that okay?

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, I work on call on weekends and at night. I'd probably complain to neighbours having a noisy 3am party too, and consider calling the cops. Some of us get really sick and messed up if we have our sleep fucked with.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Whatever you guys. It'd just be decent of you to give it a rest for a few days.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link


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