Strange Tales of Hassidic Jews

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I am not arguing with numbnuts on the internet.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"strange" = deviation from the norm. Visual sexual stimulation is ubiquitous across humanity. it is the norm. ergo, pornography is not strange.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I am not arguing with numbnuts on the internet.
-- n/a (nu...), July 14th, 2005 12:04 PM. (Nick A.) (later)

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm fairly certain the "sex through a hole in a sheet" thing is pretty much just a distortion of various customs and terms relating to the sanctity of sex on the sabbath, the shekhinah, women being "veiled", etc. I don't think there's any actual teaching saying "insert penis into vagina through hole in sanctified white sheet on the sabbath cuz God says so".

Snopes agrees with you.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Shakey, I can argue that a billion people is a minority. There are 6 or 7 billion people in the world.

Also, it doesn't matter whether or not the majority of people in a culture do something, it can still be considered deviant if it strays from the norm. Norms are developed, and though they change over time, there's often a lag between what a culture considers a norm and how the majority of people act. Then there's always hypocrites, too.

matlewis (matlewis), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

well this is all just semantics at this point, but the "billion" number was not thrown out by me and was obviously arbitrary. I think it was just used to connote "a huge amount" of people. An actual survey of the number of people who enjoy seeing other people engaged in visually recorded sex acts would indicate the number is way way WAY higher than just a billion. Porn is ubiquitous across human cultures and has been since man learned how to record images. It is the norm.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I may have told this anecdote on ILX sometime before, but here goes again:

Driving around Williamsburg a few years ago with some friends of mine, looking for some elusive restaurant or record shop or some such (don't remember). Being a Manhattan snob, I know precious little about Brooklyn and am familiar with its neighborhoods in the same way I'm familiar with the neighborhoods of, say, central Cambodia (i.e. not at all). In any case, I do know that Williamsburg, along with being the then-home of both my beloved Cop Shoot Cop and Peter Luger's Ass-whupping, vegan-troubling Steak House, is a veritable hotbed of Hassidic Judaism. In any case, we're driving around looking for this place, and we keep noticing little pockets of Hassidic Jews gathered on street corners in seemingly synchronized patterns. Then we'll travel blocks and blocks where we don't see any, then turn a corner and again there'll be droves of them. I comment on this, and my friend Rob turns around and says:

"Yeah, it's like now Hassidim, Now Ya Don't!"

We laugh so hard we have to pull over.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The hole in the sheet thing is a total myth

Hassidic Judaism teaches that the husband and wife both must be naked during sex.

foreplay is mandatory

one of the laws is that the husband has to make sure the wife has an orgasm before he does

hassidim have very hot sex

i know

because i am one

:)

actual hassidic jew, Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

how did you find us, actual jew?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Another strange Hassidic tale:

Once upon a time, three men were confined in a prison. There were no windows in this prison, no light seeping through any chinks in the wall, no glimmer slipping quietly beneath the door. It was pitch-black in there. So dark, not even the darkness could see.
Now, two of these unlucky fellows, they were very learned, very intelligent men. Great teachers, admired and followed by many. The other, poor soul, he was a simpleton. He knew nothing, nothing at all. He couldn't put his clothes on, he couldn't feed himself, nothing. So, one day, one of these learned men made a decision: he would teach this poor fellow! There, in that darkness. He would teach this poor soul all he needed to know: how to dress himself, how to feed himself, button his buttons, hold a spoon, everything.

He worked hard. But that other fellow, that other learned man? He did nothing, nothing at all. Shameful.

Finally, one day, the hardworking teacher had all he could take. "Friend, I do not understand! Why do you just sit there, waiting? How can you do nothing for this poor simple soul?"

The other man listened, thoughtful. Then, finally, he spoke. "My friend, I understand that you have been working hard. I understand what you have been trying to do. Now, understand me. In my waiting, I have been working, too. You see, in this darkness, I fear: though you teach this poor soul, you will teach him nothing. No matter how many years you try. In this darkness, he can learn nothing of value at all. And so, I sit here thinking. How might I break a hole in that wall? How might I let the light in to this prison? When that happens, my friend, this man can learn for himself all that he needs to know."

"Others think that tales are a good remedy to put one to sleep; I maintain that stories are useful to awaken people."
- R. Nachman of Bratzlav

moley, Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like a great porn title:

Hottt Hassidic Sex! Volume One

xxxpost

Product of Australia / Kate (papa november), Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU PEOPLE ARE FULL OF S**T! GET A LIFE

ABCDEFG, Friday, 22 July 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you have to not spell out s**t the same way you can't spell out G*d?

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

m***e

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I was in the duty free area of Ben Gurion Airport recently. There was a Lubavitch stall there. I was astonished by this on any number of levels. Firstly, it suggested that here in the airport you could join up with the Lubavitchers more cheaply than outside, as you wouldn't have to pay any tax to do so. The idea of a religion being able to tout their wares in such a formal manner also struck me as being a bit odd.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 26 August 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I just walked by what I assume was a Jewish household (its Saturday here, in a heavily hassidic neighbourhood) and from one home emanated the most GORGEOUS female singing I've ever heard. It was like the Bulgarian Voices, this lilting, acapella plaint in multiple voice. I actually stood still and listened a while. Wonderful! I wonder what it was all about.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 27 August 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

That's really odd, I thought hassidic men weren't supposed to listen to women singing (or more accurately, women aren't allowed to sing around men/men aren't allowed to listen to vocal music featuring women)...? Is there an exception?

Laurel, Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Come to think of it -- Trayce, is there any possibility it was a boys' choir?

Laurel, Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

It sounded pretty like adult women, but in all honesty I cant be sure they were a jewish group; the singing certainly wasnt in english though.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 28 August 2005 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I too am an acutal Chassidic Jew. I am appalled by both the hatred I see here from some of you and the serious ingnorance. Before you label me and many thousands of others please do your homework. I am a Breslover Chassid. I maintain a new blog at http://joyonnarrowbridge.blogspot.com/
If you would like to actually learn something come by and post a question. Ill do my best to answer. I dont try to convert anybody. I have love in my heart, or at least try to, for all of my fellows. I simply choose to live a life the way I believe that my creator has prescribed for me. I live in America where I was under the impression that was not a crime. Please stop the hatred and anti semitism. It is easy to say I am not an anti semtie I have Jewish friends. That is because most Jews dont act or in any way distinguish themselves as Jewish. What's to hate? They are just like you. It is your words regarding those who prasctice traditional Judaism that show your true colors.
I hope I have not offended anyone.
Joy on Narrow Bridge!

JoyonNarrowBridge, Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Uneducated rascals. My issue with this site is not the views but the errors that derive from a complete lack of education. Perhaps a fund should be set up for most of the contributers to simply educate them up to the high school level. If I receive replies, I will point out all the errors by the most stupid people I have yet to encounter on the net!

Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link

contributors

jbr is the value obtained from the leptonic branching ratio measurement and (Jod, Saturday, 8 October 2005 07:06 (eighteen years ago) link

(oh snap, etc)

jbr is the value obtained from the leptonic branching ratio measurement and (Jod, Saturday, 8 October 2005 07:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone set us up the momus.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 8 October 2005 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps a fund should be set up for most of the contributers to simply educate them up to the high school level.

I went to a Catholic high school and, believe it or not, received very little education on this subject.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 October 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

There are a few orthodox jews where I live-a few times while walking around I have been asked if I might be Jewish. At first I thought, "Uh-oh, missionaries." but after I said I wasn't they didn't bother me. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Sengai, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

jews for jesus?

glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 8 October 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of them round my way tend to ride these huge (like, HUGE) penny farthings. It's got to the point now where there are probably five or six mod shops in my town - big chrome wheels, bucketsaddles, spotlights. Some of them have monster stereos on the side, blasting out that angular maths rock that all hassidic jews everywhere in the world love so much.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/lynskey/penny.jpg

Some of my friends in nearby Ganton claim that they don't mix too much with "the Sith", as I believe they call us non-Hassdic jews. That's not the case around my neck of the woods, they're very socially active, mainly organising festivals celebrating early and mid 80's commercial reggae - although my band did get told off last year for playing "Pass The Dutchie", which apparently has "unclean" lyrics.


On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Saturday, 8 October 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

did you know that hassidic jews have sex through a whole in a bedsheet?

for real, i saw a thing about it on TV.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that's bullshit though.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i saw it on tv.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

oh well then it has to be true!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

C'mon all you dopeheads! you saw it on TV?!!!! Did you ever read a book in your life. The hole in the sheet thing is a lot of bologna! You guys crack me up! How stupid can you all be? Imbeciles! Rodents! Uneducated putrid American Hicks!

Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i think thomas theres got a point

Jordan LeMonde, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

There are a few orthodox jews where I live-a few times while walking around I have been asked if I might be Jewish. At first I thought, "Uh-oh, missionaries." but after I said I wasn't they didn't bother me. Can anyone shed some light on this?

-- Sengai (pjrobins200...) (webmail), October 8th, 2005 9:56 AM. (later) (link)

They want to make sure actual jews are being jewish up to their standards. They don't convert christians.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Jonothong,
Go back to kindergarden. You cannot convert a Jew to Judaism. They are asking if the person is Jewish so that they will be able to offer them a chance at participating in their own tradition. Is something wrong with that?
Your name suits you!

Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahah, are you a troll? You're misconstruing what I said and being very pedantic. My friend works at a record where frequently Orthodox jews leave literature for employees of Jewish heritage, inviting them to partake in religious celebrations.

I'm sorry if I caused offense but my understanding was that many orthodox Jews were concerned about how secular some of their less traditional bretheren had become.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I do have a problem when ignorance rules. I am not offended since I am not Jewish, but stupidity does irk me. Have you ever heard of a library? They might have one in your neighborhood! Go check it out.

Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

did you know that hassidic jews have sex through a whole in a bedsheet?

I know for a fact that's bullshit. It's actually impossible on account of these "brisks" that they have just after they're born where they lob the penis off. I saw a thing on FOX about it.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Thermo,
Please read my comments. I think they apply to you as well!

Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Thomas, where exactly did I say anything untrue, you fucking tosser?

Also, the bedsheet stuff was addressed way upthread.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't it a "briss"?

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

nope, it's a brisk.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

definition of briss

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

They want to make sure actual jews are being jewish up to their standards. They don't convert christians.

-- Jonothong Williamsmang (SUCCUM...), October 8th, 2005.

You said that they were trying to convert Jews, as implied from the last clause in your sentence. If you knew anything about Judaism you wouldn't have written that.

Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

thomas, learn to read

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, right you're BORN a jew. But they try to "convert" them to following orthodox practices, etc.

Quit being such a fucking dick. Why do you care random person who has never posted here before?

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

You cannot convert to Orthodoxy, that was my point about your ignorance. The profanity just reemphasizes my point. Are you the policeman for this site?

Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

From their point of view! I know plenty of jews who consider themselves atheists.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link


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