ok, well what about Portland, Oregon?

fortunately, all my cardboard boxed stuff is up in my room.

Go to Movie Madness, one of the greatest video rental places in the country, which also serves as a sort of movie costume museum. It's right near the Horse Brass Englishy Pub. From there wander over to the Belmont district a few blocks over in the upper 30s, see what's playing at the Avalon (a 3rd-run theatre and nickel video arcade). Stop at Stumptown for some coffee, or just go to the tasting annex next door. Eventually head south about six blocks to Hawthorne, one of the first neighborhoods to be gentrified in the modern push, and wonder whether all the other neighborhoods going under gentrification will end up like this. Putter about Hawthorne if you like, checking out various stores that sell various goods. Or else keep heading south, poking about the great old Victorian houses, until you get to Clinton and 26th. See what's happening at the Clinton Street Theater, the country's oldest continually-run single-theater movie house (which plays a lot of local films, ironic hipster films [they're showing the Transformers movie again this week, in a double feature with the Gobots movie this time] or the films (especially crunchy lefty documentaries) that the main art house [Cinema 21] doesn't pick up. Pop into Q is for Choir or Green Noise for records if you like. Then head north two blocks back to Division and over a few to the early 30s and go to Pix Patisserie for some very rich chocolate desserts. Grab a free weekly and see what's playing that night. On your way out, head over a few blocks to the Oregon Theater, which shows adult movies and which I'm sure is a fine establishment. Masturbate furiously. The E Room is nearby -- one of those bars everyone talks about, and sure it's a lesbian bar, but you came all the way to Portland, you might as well give it a shot. If that doesn't work out for you, go up to Division and 42nd-ish and have a bite at the Kalga Cafe, which I haven't been to in years but it seemed pleasant enough at the time. Keep walking around, you're sure to find things to look at and enjoy.

Chris OTM.

Traditionally, when a Portlander received visitors from far away, the way to show them a good time always was to drive them out of town to Mt. Hood, Multnomah Falls or the Oregon coast. This has been modified in the past decade to include a routine more resembling what Chris recommended (although the traditional leaving-town agenda still has many fans).

Any recommendations for places for checking out furniture? Particularly an interesting looking, affordable chair of some sort?

do i move here, y/n

I like it so far.

good skag

y

it's either there or Chicago.

CHICAGO:
PRO -- friends, band, diversity
CON -- flat, not near mountains/wilderness, will probably just turn around and move again in a year

PORTLAND:
PRO -- pretty, near rec activities I like, good music scene?, where I want to go to med school
CON -- no friends, white, too many hipsters?

move here. weather/dive bars/sprawl/music scene is better than chicago

hung far low

better dive bars than Chicago??? I have trouble believing this.

I mean, the biggest hang up is that my best pals live in Chicago, and I could rejoin the band. Other than that, Portland seems like a dream.

But let's pretend for a second: where do I live there?? I go on craigslist and none of it makes sense to me. My friend from Vancouver, WA says her friends from high school are moving to the NE side? the NW side is industrial/hipsters, south-side is for rich people....???

...is Mt Hood the best bet for skiing, or is there stuff closer?

Stay east of the river, you'll be fine. Between the river and NE/SE 50-odd avenue.

NW is yuppies. SW is yuppie families.

Yuppie families, ewwww!

Is it houses or apts in that neighborhood?

Both.

Best to come out on a scouting trip and get a feel for the place. That's what i did, with the help of Casuistry.

Probably a good idea.

I suppose moving w/o looking would be, uh, dumb.

SE is a mix of houses and apartments. there are new buildings going up all through there. both of my portland friends live in southeast and neither are yuppies.

THIS MAN, MY FRIEND SHANTI, LIVES IN SOUTHEAST PORTLAND. LOOK HIM UP RIVER WOLF

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/872947682_8f7785c1d2.jpg

nice pith helmet!

any pdilxors going to Tim Sweeney at Holocene on Friday? I'll be there.

The Holocene is just so gross though.

Reed: Yay or Nay?

holocene's nice not gross u crazy

ultranegative on Reed. i have yet to meet a decent human being from Reed.

I've known a couple Reed dropouts that were pretty okay.

one of my favorite ilxors went to reed

I think the guys in Dagger of the Mind are Reed kids. They're fun.

move here. weather/dive bars/sprawl/music scene is better than chicago

-- kingfish, Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:58 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

wtf, for some reason I always thought kingfish was Britishes and just had an unhealthy obsession with US politics.

Holocene is basically the hellmouth. Being at the Holocene is like having the veil of maya removed and staring at the bleak abyss of nothingness that is the true reality.

Chicago clearly has better dive bars than Portland. Let's not be ridiculous here.

Oh man, Reed. PROBLEMATIC. Reedies are fine individually but get really upsetting in groups. Nice campus though, and they seem to be pretty smart people. But the Reedie culture is just not my scene. Nice campus, though.

Also Mt Hood is ridiculously close. Like 40 miles away? I don't ski though, but I believe that is where people go.

East side is a must, although if you're going to go to OHSU, then there are a few little bits of west side worth considering. SE is not as bad as your friends say, especially further out. Foster in the 60s/70s is up and coming, they keep telling me, and I know a bunch of people out there now, so it might be true.

And rw, I am out of town for the summer but sometime after midSeptember you'd be welcome to crash on my futon for a day or two. I suspect that is too late for your needs, though.

wtf, for some reason I always thought kingfish was Britishes and just had an unhealthy obsession with US politics.

haha, this is a new one. Massively anglophilic(like most amerikaners on here), but I've only lived in three cities my entire life: Flint, Ann Arbor, and Portland. Also, you should have been paying better attention when I talked about meeting John Edwards, etc.

I also have available couchspace, if need be.

thanks dudes. if i visit, it'll have to be late august, for a sept 1 lease or something.

i'm really fencesitting here, though.

Like we said, come & visit. I was here for about two days(after spending 4 years of visiting different cities) before deciding to come out here from michigan.

You can always move to Chicago now and move to PDX later, or vice versa.

well if i get into school at OHSU i'll be living in PDX no matter what!