Capital Punishment: Should the Death Penalty Still Exist In A 'Civilised Society'?

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xpost Dan, I know, that's why I personally think the death penalty should be halted for now, the system is waaaaaaay too flawed and is not being used in any way I'd approve of persnoally.

yep, you only need to look at ILX for this (excuse sarcasm)

This was originally a morbid joke on my part. Unless anybody knows of any upstanding undead citizens, killing criminals is the ultimate expression of our determination of their un-rehabilatibility.

"This is the worst thing that I've ever seen in my career," said Johnson, a 33-year veteran of law enforcement. "The brutal force used against the victims ... it's indescribable."

Rehabilitate my ass. You're goddamn right it's about revenge. I'll be watching for a jury of the people of Florida to do the right thing and fry that guy.

*moves to Castro's Cuba*

[ asinine one liner not really germane to anything ]

*kills Nicky Wire*

In which case, the fault would appear to not solely be the murderers', strange to say.

i hate to joke about this stuff, but has anyone seen a picture of the cells there? its almost as bad as a studio apartment in manhattan.

xpost Impartiality is virtually impossible to begin with on any high profile case; the only answer to that is to shut down the press completely on reporting crime--whether or not the cop said a damn thing, people still could read the story and see for themselves that it is an absolutely horrific case, so I don't see how the cop per se is causing a problem for the prosecution.

my brain is addled from too much cream of broccoli soup.

hstencil: ok, that's kind of what i was thinking. got ya.

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Yeah.

If you kill someone with a baseball bat, does it really make the crime any more heinous if you also smash the teeth into tiny pieces? I mean presumably the people were long dead by the time they got finished with all the teeth, right? Sure, it indicates some kind of insane rage, but is it really a more heinous crime that your regular run-of-the-mill death-by-bludgeoning?

Anyway I think there are two ways to look at why that's an indicator of it being "different": the insane rage part. It indicates, I suppose, either the person is completely insane and mentally ill (well, I guess you'd have to be but hopefully you know what I mean), which I guess would actually make them ineligible for the death penalty. Or it implies they just really get off on torture and abuse and death, which is really heinous. Run-of-the-mill bludgeoning/shooting/etc you still have that possibility of like heat-of-the-moment or OMG that was actually a one time thing, I think, in some people's minds...

Of course the whole dynamic is fucked because I think getting off on bashing in people's teeth with baseball bats IS a sign of being completely mentally ill so the whole "mental illness" conundrum is a false one.

TOMBOT, aren't you being a little defeatist?

it happens, sometimes.

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