― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:05 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:21 (twenty years ago) link
The latter would have been funnier, I think, but both of them were pre-fall pride, obv.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
Funny thing is, I thought the exact same thing: sitting in with those two narrow banks of four, hoofing the ball aimlessly upfield, desperately protecting a narrow lead, backs to the wall, etc. I was looking for wee Craig Broon in the England dug-out.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:28 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
EVERYBODY here wheels out the anti-commentator thing. I sort of agree, sometimes, at least in 2002 I was happy when England beat Argentina and then quite anxious that they lose to Brazil given that the hype had increased so dramatically after the Danish match.
Nonetheless I'm not sure it's right to do this, and also as ever, why would I want Brazil to win.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link
This is such utter nonsense yes, as if they're even halfway as bothered or as interested in archaic national divides as the twats who allege this.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
No, not as well. We're not that far off the pace, though. But I don't really see why this is so relevant. The point is that at one time we have been right up there at the top, and for a nation of our size and footballing interest, we should expect to be fighting for that place again. Scotland is much smaller and it would be unrealistic to place the same expectations. Denmark (about the same population) won Euro 1992, but no one expected them to constantly be repeating that achievement.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
The flip side of it is that in the South East, you watch the news at 6.00pm and then see almost exactly the same stories on the local news at 6.30pm. But it's not much consolation, eh?
This is nothing to do with sport, sorry.
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
Denmark won Euro 1992 and who on earth thought they'd do that, England have a chance in every tournament they enter and are certainly not on the tier of confidence that says "we'll go and win a few games and be happy", nor should they be.
They are under-achievers mostly. Like Spain. Who you could also accuse of being ridiculous if they got their hopes up before big tournaments, even moreso than England. But similarly I would expect and be amazed if the Spanish media didn't get excited and consider their side to have a very good chance of winning things.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link
When Celtic have been having their good runs in European competitions over the past few years, has 1967 been mentioned much?
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:06 (twenty years ago) link
(world rankings: http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,AllJun2004,00.html?select11=All&cmbMonth=Jun&cmbYear=2004 entirely nonsensical as far as i can tell)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sure I read something saying Celtic and Rangers fans competed for bragging rights over their 9s and 10s in-a-row and that Celtic fans always had the trump card with that Euopean Cup victory. But separating truth from London media myth with regards to the Old Firm is very tough, it seems. Going to live in Scotland to find out the truth is not really on my agenda.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
Well I can't speak for Celtic fans generally, but certainly the Scottish press went over it a few times...
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link