Cosby Show - Classic or Dud?

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Naw, B.L.A.M., it's all good -- at the next Marlins game the chili fries are on me.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't really like sports but i'm not particularly proud of it

s1ocki, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I assume you take medicine to offset the revulsion and nausea you feel when you happen upon a sporting event on television, then.

Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously, Alfred, the only reason I brought it up at all was because I wanted to raise an eyebrow at your conflation of boredom and disgust. If you had said "I'm bored by sports in the same way that you're bored by sitcoms," I wouldn't have said a single word. Disliking sports is perfectly understandable. I don't particularly like watching games, and the beginning of football season always vaguely depresses me, but I enjoy baseball in particular as a colorful cultural phenomenon and as a minefield for statistics on par with Billboard charts and baby-name lists.

jaymc, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually kinda like sports in theory... i just don't really have the attention span for games, i always get distracted!

s1ocki, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

My Cosby nostalgia is dead now. You people killed it.

nabisco, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Cue Shakey: "Good riddance!"

nabisco, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

They've been having a great time reading comments:

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/cosby-show.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm she is kinda hot but the hair is terrible

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It was 1980-something. Everyone had terrible hair.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

NOT LISA BONET, WHO IS ALWAYS CELESTIAL IN BEAUTY.

Abbott, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.raquenel.com/different/bonet1b.jpg

Exhibit A

HI DERE, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.serieslive.com/img/series/casting/cosby_show.jpg

Exhibit B

HI DERE, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Claire looks like that chick from the "Black and White" morphing scene.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

(Granted, Vanessa's hair kind of eclipses everything else in the picture but Denise's do is just not particularly flattering.)

HI DERE, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

eh, regardless, as a thirteen-year-old, Denise, YEAH!!; Clair, WHATEVER, she looks like my friend's mom, etc.

dell, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a brief time when Theo had a ridiculously tall fade. I wonder if 89-90 hairstyles will ever be repopularlized among black men.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I HOPE NOT

HI DERE, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

What's wrong with her hair in that youtube clip? It's fairly standard for, like, late-20th-century late-30s/early-40s middle-class black woman hair.

I get defensive about Cliff and Claire sometimes because my parents are weirdly like them. (It's possible this show was a formative influence in their US cultural assimilation, I dunno. There are certainly a few picked up mannerisms driving home the "my mom" = "Claire" part, but that might just be general haughtiness.)

nabisco, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I was in a class of all-white Idahoans once accusing the Cosby Show of being all Uncle Tommed out and I was like, stfu, you're the people who told the Murphy's (mom of Yo was English teacher at my HS) where the KFC was when they first moved to town.

Abbott, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The only character that seems insufferably smug in retrospect is Sandra (I always wound up sympathizing with poor misogynist, confused Elvin), but then again she had burden of having named her children Winnie and Nelson.

Her one great moment is the episode in which she and Elvin tell the Huxes that they're dropping out of their Ivy League grad school programs to open a "wilderness store."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It was more like, "Why are they saying that black people should MAKE MONEY and HAVE NICE HOUSES and GOOD JOBS?"

Abbott, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sandra's greatest moment was when she was sick and Claire and Elvin's mom took the babies for the day. She got worked up later and hunted them down feverishly with a surgical mask on.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, you want Cosby fashion amazingness: there is a later episode where they're having a barbecue, and Elvin and Theo are planning a bachelor party for Martin (who's about to marry Denise), and talk of a stripper creates a massive argument between every male/female pairing in the whole house (down to Cliff's parents) -- and through it all, Sandra is wearing an outfit that will BLOW YOUR MIND like PA-DOW like MINDBOGGLING YOU HAVE NO IDEA

(short version: umm, tight yellowish patterned pants, but they're not pants, they come up to an extremely high waist and then become a cross between built-in suspenders and overalls, and amazingly enough for an item of women's clothing require the wearer to have zero breasts whatsoever, and show it; it's like the equivalent of a low-cut top and corset in an alternate universe where you grandly show off that you're extremely flat-chested, rather than the opposite -- and then there is this crazy hip stuff going on that just ... it's mindblowing, so much so that the mere fact that she's pulling it off makes it seem awesome and hot)

nabisco, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a brief time when Theo had a ridiculously tall fade. I wonder if 89-90 hairstyles will ever be repopularlized among black men.

-- Johnny Fever, Monday, September 17, 2007 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

fwiw Yung Joc is trying to bring back the Gumby-style Bobby Brown slope. I'm not even kidding.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, Martin was already married to Denise when he first showed up, wasn't he? They must have been planning a retrospective bachelor party. Anyway, Cliff's dad demonstrates how fan dancing works.

nabisco, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Martin was on a few years prior to actually playing Martin as well...he was one of Cliff's med students who ended up being mistaken for Denise's date.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"Elvin is the fellow that she LIKES."

"Oh. So why am I here?"

"Cuz you're the fellow THAT I LIKE."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh right! It was Sandra!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a brief time when Theo Sandra had a ridiculously tall fade wore suspenders. I wonder if 89-90 hairstyles suspenders will ever be repopularized...

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

...among women

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Or did electroclash do that? I slept through the first couple years of this decade.

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Umm, no. Suspenders are back nowish, and more among men. Usually for a kind of urchiny look.

nabisco, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Urchiny and/or farmhandy, with the occasional formal

nabisco, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you serious? Like, Dexys' urchiny?

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

(I gotta know).

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

MORE COSBY.

Jeff, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8594/new125qx7.gif

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

pls delete or I do vangogh on both my eyes...& please braille me the name of a prostitute who might be flattered by such a gesture (NB, momus not included)

dell, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually kinda like sports in theory... i just don't really have the attention span for games, i always get distracted!

this = me

in fact i LOVE reading about sports, espec baseball, but can't remember the last time i watched a game on tv (going to one is fun now and then).

J.D., Tuesday, 18 September 2007 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I think one of the better things my father did in raising me was not impressing that I should have a favorite NFL team. We always rooted for the team that beat the spread. I wish I could even be that impartial in politics, but I'm not.

That said, I'll be a Cardinals fan til I die even though Budweiser gives me the worst hangovers.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Dexy's urchiny.

nabisco, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Greatest monologue in TV history at 2:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfVsmAok-jQ&feature=related

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 October 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Really? I love The Cosby Show, and I love his occasional monologues on the show, but that one in particular seems really minor.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 October 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"For twenty years you and I have had constant battles with these people, and the question always was, what were we fighting about? It's about the house. They want the house."

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 October 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

so much hate! i thought everyone liked this show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srRec16PfpA

piscesx, Saturday, 19 March 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't see a lot of hate upthread!

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 March 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i was suprised there was any! for me it's like hating Warners cartoons or whatever. i'm just too sensitive about it i guess cause i can't think of any other show that my whole family watched together and liked as much.

piscesx, Saturday, 19 March 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Cosby Show is very divisive but it's mostly argued about by a) people who want to talk about racial politics, not the quality of the comedy and/or b) people who don't actually know why the show was funny and are judging Cosby off of pudding pop commercials and that Simpsons parody

some dude, Saturday, 19 March 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link


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