The Sun Is Shining For The First Time In Forever; We're Gay! Fagz Club Spring 2010

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that looks like so much fun!

queer punk land party was amazing. lots of great people, working on awesome farm-type projects, sex in the woods, views of mount shasta, great bands, intense amounts of drinking...and hey, se4n and i talked, and though we weren't ever not good friends, we're good friends on good terms again. lots of specific things said, but in the end, we did a long hug. so, feeling pretty good about stuff right now.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

oh also, dr3w, speaking of hardcore and metal, one of the bands that played this weekend: http://www.myspace.com/thespeedofdarkness .

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

tabes, thx for the Vaginal Davis alert, I think I'm going to the show on Wednesday.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

YEAH DO IT. i'm so jelly.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm going to see the new stuff from these people on wednesday: http://www.youngcreature.net/2009/05/lovewarz.html

(it's a date with the boy in the last video. think i've talked about him before?)

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

saw (and loved!) 'times square' tonight as part of the monthly queer/art/film series at the IFC center. the producers apparently excised a scene where nicky and pammy actually kiss

also the hosts showed trailers for films that they wanted to show but for which they couldn't locate a print, including this '70s schlock-sploitation curio (KJB have you seen this?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHxg2UzCag

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha! I've known of that film ever since i was a little kid but never managed to see it. It stars Rula Lenska, though, so I should probably get on it.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Yo Tabes, Screaming Females are playing June 3 at Thee Parkside and June 4 at Hemlock Tavern, you haaaave to go.

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, gays, is it unreasonable to assume that most everyone knows about the Stonewall riots? Coz I was having a conversation with two pretty intelligent (straight) people last night and neither of them knew what it was (one recalled it after I explained but didn't remember the name).

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I know lots of gays who didn't know about them.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Also: happy birthday, surm!

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

not too surprising, stevie. hell, most people in nyc didn't even know it was happening at the time and i'd bet lots of (esp. young) homos don't know about it at all.

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Just showed a screener of the Stonewall doc to a gay who didn't know anything about them.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw, I'd never heard of them until I started reading lots of stuff about gay rights

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

for some reason, i find this whole 'not knowing about stonewall' thing incredibly crazy. it's like not knowing about the 'i have a dream' speech, imho.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

they only teach one of those in school iirc

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xp tabes I feel the same way until I realize that we are both A) gay and not only that but B) super-immersed in the history of it all; wd be so rich if I had $1 for every book I read/paper I wrote/class I took on queer theory or representations of gay men or whatever.

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know about this

jonathan blapelbon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I learned about Stonewall on my own; not once was it mentioned in college courses.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I did too but only from my super-liberal unitarian friend who knew bout all that stuff and wd constantly be all YOU'RE GAY, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THESE THINGS??

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

WARNING SELF-PROMOTION ALERT: get your gay history fix here!

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/pacificalgbt/pacificalgbt2.html

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

even the queer theory stuff I read is mostly about the intersections of race & sexuality, and for all sorts of unfortunate reasons this tends to be very seperated from white gay history

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, I'VE known about Stonewall since I was a teen. But its somewhere below the Teapot Dome scandal in most US history classes, mo doubt.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

No doubt.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

lol two weeks ago i accidentally referred to stonewall as 'stonehenge' in a class presentation and no one said anything

Tape Store, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

mo doubt, mo problems

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

where did the Teapot Dome riots take place?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, stuff was always mentioned peripherally in classes...in my public middle school, i remember it being mentioned by name but not really talked about.

and this ain't bragging, it's more just my own life story, but i think that some of my shock comes from the fact that i was so immersed in this history from the time i was young, being a 12-year-old punk kid who was lucky enough to grow up being friends with people like the guyz from Limpwrist, as well as literary types who gave me Ginsberg and Frank O'Hara books and whatnot. i don't judge people who don't know about this history, but i definitely find it a little sad and weird that it isn't more well-known. that said, i'm sure that 'Milk' did raise the profile of the early gay-rights movement for a lot of people, for better or for worse. (i only add that caveat b/c that film is just eh, and b/c of other issues that surrounded my own viewing of it that i've talked about before).

anyway, i need to finish writing this article on Azari & III:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfNvPqKRJ0

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Just showed a screener of the Stonewall doc to a gay who didn't know anything about them.

Does this work better than pinot grigio and Teddy Pendergrass?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and his boyfriend was there too.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

So I just graduated college, and then got fired from my job about 20 minutes after (they actually called me DURING THE CEREMONY to tell me)

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

very yin and yang. Was it something you didn't want to be fired from?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes. Oh yes. It was the one thing I was depending on after college to pay rent and save a few $$$s up to move to another city (where I could transfer locations). It's difficult to explain how enormously this has fucked me over.

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Shit, I'm really, really sorry Stevie.

lol dope (Tape Store), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

bah it's ok. I'm sure that something nicer will come out of it and it's one of those "blessings in disguise" things. But in the mean time I'm just like, oh my god, for real? It was the dumbest thing, too; it basically amounted to me giving someone too much of a free sample (which we're allowed to/encouraged to do)

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I work[ed] at Wh0le F00dz by the by. R.I.P $12/hr wages and a 20% discount and some of the coolest raddest co-workers of all time :/

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

aw man, that sucks. sorry dude :/

if it's any consolation, yr grace jones picture is hanging on my wall (or is trying to, the tape i'm using to secure it isn't strong enough and i keep waking up with grace's face in my lap (ahem))

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry Steve, but go sniff out some more money, pronto

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sorry too. may love be with you.

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I'm already working on my resume and hope to be sending it out to places by the end of the day. On the bright side I get to sort of relax a bit after graduation! So this is sort of somewhat nice on some level.

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

shit, that sucks. good luck finding something.

and if it makes you feel any better, i've almost given up on finding a job of any sort. thinking of setting up my typewriter outside of ritzy places and being one of those d-bags who writes poems for money. or doing medical studies.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

There's always hooking. (Jokes aside, that does suck, and get that resume up to date immediately!)

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

On a happier note I've decided I'm going to make a tomato pie and maybe invite some crust punks over and listen to Rites of Spring and dissect capitalism.

(Rice Dream) (Stevie D), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a dude in nyc who does that 'writes poems for money' thing, he sets up a table inside various subway stations and advertises as a "new york times published poet". he looks increasingly haggard every time i see him

i just sent a job app in, hoping against hope i get this one

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

u are smart, devoted and worthy, just fyi

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i am supposed to meet up with a member of gravy train!!! for a date right now, but he ain't txtin me back, the bitch. :(

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 May 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

eh, whatever. i'm off work, drink time.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 May 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

that subway poet has been around at least 20 years.

I was home today w/ a chest cold, sucks. No Vaginal Davis tonight.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 May 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

man, everyone's sick. and i have to report for jury duty at 8:30am. (almost wrote 'judy duty'. i wish.)

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Thursday, 20 May 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

showbiz aspiarants, lose your Gay Voice!

http://gawker.com/5542923/want-to-get-rid-of-your-gay-accent-theres-an-app-for-that

(Commenters otm on Vincent Price and Snagglepuss.)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link


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