Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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oh, how I would love to go to this weirdfest. And later apply for a grant from the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace. And also: Believe.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Looks like it's making it's way down the west coast...

From http://www.davidlynchtour.org

Thursday, November 3 • 7:30 PM
University of Southern California
Bovard Auditorium
Los Angeles, CA

Friday, November 4 • 7:30 PM
University of California at San Diego
Price Center Theater
La Jolla, CA

Saturday, November 5 • 7:30 PM
University of California at Irvine
Crystal Cove Auditorium
Orange County, CA

Sunday, November 6 • 7:30 PM
University of California at Berkeley
Wheeler Auditorium
Berkeley, CA

Monday, November 7 • 7:30 PM
University of Washington
130 Kane Hall
Seattle, WA

Tuesday, November 8 • 7:30 PM
University of Oregon
Columbia 150
Eugene, OR

Free admission and a free DVD too!

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The DVD release is still on course for next spring.

More info, please. I've been hearing about a R1 release of season 2 for years, and it has never shown up.

― J (Jay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Lynch tried to recruit my girlfriend into TM.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Sunday, November 6 • 7:30 PM
University of California at Berkeley
Wheeler Auditorium
Berkeley, CA

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell is the BEARCADE?

I should probably know, but I never go anywhere near the campus.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

BAH - I will have to miss that. lame

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah what the fuck, I went to cal and we had no such stupidly named thing. We had a lot of other stupidly named things, but nothing called Bearcade. Is this in the ASUC?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

sold out.

fuck you, cal!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...

The latest news from http://www.dugpa.com/ seems to indicate that season two will be released on DVD in Scandinavia in November.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

yay, scandanavia, the biggest market for david lynch!

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hey guys im from syd australia any knews when season 2 will be released down under??? I have lauras diary (book form) the whole season including the pilot and fire walk with me on video but the quality is sooo crap!! any news pls let me know!

― deb, Monday, 27 February 2006 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Guess what comes out on DVD in Australia on November 2nd:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788176

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788177

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

do Aussie DVDs play in the US...?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

they're region 4, so no, unless you region-free-ed your player.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-Second-Season/dp/B000M3439E/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1202403-4903334?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1173599581&sr=1-1

― Shakey Mo Collier, Sunday, 11 March 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

HOW'S ANNIE

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

So many people have forced season 1 dvd on me. I'd really like to understand the lurve, but the show's just a soporific for me. I did like the time my roomie fast-forwarded thru "Fire Walk With Me" to how me all the creepy parts, tho it kind of ruined my work day afterwards.

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

[Removed Illegal Link]

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Heck to you, illegality.

Here's Lynch talking about 'Loose Change' clip on Dutch TV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYYN7QhcKs

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Is region 2 still coming in May of this year then?

― StanM, Sunday, 11 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

(er... Twin Peaks, I mean)

― StanM, Sunday, 11 March 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

superglad that Season 2 is finally coming out, but a little disappointed that it isn't being packaged altogether with Season 1 and the Pilot in one big box. Lame that the pilot isn't available at all on DVD in the US....

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, best thing about re-reading this thread = I had forgotten that whole span of time when everything Anna posted got cut off at the end, like she was constantly getting knocked over the head with candlesticks and passing out mid-sentence.

― nabisco, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hey guys help I'm being held captive in a fortune coo

― nabisco, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

roflz

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

They're rerunning it on the Finnish TV at the moment, and I've been watching it with friends... I think I finally understand why Lynch wanted the murder never to be solved and the whole mystery just gradually fade into background, so that the show could just be about the inhabitants of Twin Peaks. When I first saw the series as a teen I focused (as did everyone else) on the horror and suspense aspect, but now I realize the show is really just an over-the-top soap opera, and the mystery functions mostly as a way to lure viewers in. Though of course Lynch should've realized that people wanted to find out who killed Laura Palmer, so his plan never worked. But there's so much parody and camp and over-the-to performances in the series it's hard to see it as anything else than a soap opera spiced with horror elements.

I have to say though, that the occasional conservatism of the show is kinda disturbing. Like in every Lynch movie, sex seems to be fundamentally perverse and leading to trouble. The scene where the cops question Jacques Renault and he talks about Laura and Ronette is particularly revealing. Also, I didn't really like the Bookhouse Boys thing and how they explain the troubles of Twin Peaks to be caused by some dark force in the forest. What a way to externalize your problems! I would've liked the show to be more open-ended about whether the perversity was an organic part of Twin Peaks, and not just caused by some spirits and dark forces.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally I would have been much happier if Twin Peaks had been a seven-parter, purely directed by Lynch and purely about the murder, as was the original intent.

About the show's "occasional conservatism" - Lynch is a stern, unbending right-wing Republican through and through; he's never made any secret of that.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally I would have been much happier if Twin Peaks had been a seven-parter, purely directed by Lynch and purely about the murder, as was the original intent.

Was it really? Because from what I've gathered this wasn't the case. Wikipedia quotes Lynch as saying:

The mystery of who killed Laura Palmer was the foreground, but this would recede slightly as you got to know the other people in the town and the problems they were having...The project was to mix a police investigation with a soap opera.

Also, I remember reading that Lynch and Frost disagreed whether the murder should eventually be solved: Frost thought (probably correct) that most viewers would want to know who killed Laura, whereas Lynch's view was that the murder was more of a way to get people interested, and should never solved. Anyway, I don't think it was ever supposed to be the sole focus of the series.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I don't think the conservatism should be only blamed on Lynch; if I remember correctly, he wrote and directed only two or three episodes in the series.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Any idea whether the season 2 DVDs will be coming out in Europe?

― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know about other Europe, but in Scandinavia it's released as two boxes, and the first one is already available:

http://www.cdon.com/main.phtml?navroot=905&session=1

The second one should come out next month.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, that didn't work. Here's a proper link:

http://www.cdon.com/product.phtml?prod=181572

I'm not sure if you can order it outside the Nordic countries though. At least the EU version of cdon.com doesn't have it.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

This Finnish shop promises to ship the first box out to the EU, though they're currently out of stock.

http://www.filmifriikki.fi/~TaeJx0000002/?Y999=PIF&Y104=007332431007390&Y220=45f66d9700007942001d07674a6aa5d1330dbd7f

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

And you can also preorder the second box:

http://www.filmifriikki.fi/~YP46x0000002/?Y999=PIF&Y104=007332431014275&Y220=45f66d9700007942001d07674a6aa5d1330dbd7f

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hurray my copy of Season 2 just shipped.

Lynch is conservative I don't think there's any doubt - but calling him right wing is a bit misrepresentative, I think. He's really only "conservative" in the sense that he has an unswerving loyalty to kind of traditional "small-town America" no-drinks, no-drugs, no weird sexing sort of values. But he doesn't fit neatly into any kind of typical right-wing political mold.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think it really matters whether he is conservative or not.

― The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

(btw Lynch directed 6 episodes and wrote 4)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Lynch is a stern, unbending right-wing Republican through and through; he's never made any secret of that.

I've never seen him get anywhere that specific; where have you?

Shakey, so he puts in all the weird sexing into his work as a caution?? He seems to like it way too much.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be getting the S2 DVDs, but if anyone here has DirecTV and isn't sure about TP, there's a new channel called ChillerTV that's rerunning the series.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So I was all excited for the S2 DVDs to come out because I thought, Ooh I can watch the series all over again. But now I'm finding that S1 is no longer available on DVD (at least through Netflix)? What the screw? I seem to remember watching it when it first came out a few years ago at a friend's house -- why can't I rent it anymore?

― jaymc, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Shakey, so he puts in all the weird sexing into his work as a caution?? He seems to like it way too much.

oh I agree - why else would every single film (except maybe the Elephant Man?) contain at least one scene wherein hot chicks make out with each other. He likes to explore that tension/connection between temptation and suffering. He would be a way more boring filmmmaker if he was just some predictably stern moralist - its to his credit that he's not a finger-wagger and more of an interested investigator. That being said, he does rely on the common narrative trope of sex/sensuality inevitably leading to punishment and suffering - a theme that other, more conservative (and Christian) folks like to harp on.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the S1 DVDs, they are a great package... now all I need is the fucking pilot episode.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I like season 2, lots of joeks. I'm excited to get the dvds since I first saw it on decaying, barely-watchable VHS.

― Jordan, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

season 2 has some great stuff and also some incredibly bad stuff (James/rich widow/car mechanic subplot = wtf?)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that subplot goes absolutely nowhere.

― jaymc, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ugh James. hate hate hate.

― horseshoe, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes UK SEASON ONE HAS REMASTERED PILOT

― 69, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

yes but I cannot play stupid UK DVDs. The pilot is unavailable on DVD in the US, it has never been released.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think its cuz the pilot rights are held by a different company...? And also the US and European versions of the pilot are dramatically different.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

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