xp Yeah, I can see that, actually. It's the perfect makings of a bully, really.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed, written before mods even existed!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Well there just weren't as many zings back in those days, you didn't need mods
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post Yeah just about every John Carpenter joint.
"Gattaca" is about class, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Almost more about eugenics, really?
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Eugenics is about class.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link
But isn't Ethan Hawke a janitor or something who aspires to more?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Stretching a point maybe, but Tetsuo is definitely examining Japanese middle-class identity, albeit through the medium of a white-collar guy's penis mutating into a giant rotating drill. I guess that's class-based sf though, rather than specifically blue-collar.
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Fifth Mothertrucking Element
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link
^ too often ignored
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Total Recall
Nah Ahnold is pure executive
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
But Quaid is way gritty.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude... he's actually a
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link
CONSTRUCTION WORKER
(didn't mean for that to be two posts, oops.)
A Clockwork Orange the book strongly suggests that Alex's family is fairly comfortably off (can't recall exact details, but parents baffled cz they'd provided everything for him, think they bought him his shiny top-of-the-range hi-fi though maybe he, uh, acquired it). But, they do live in a small place in a giant towerblock and not a big-assed house like the mad old cat-lady's.
So he seems fairly well-off middle-class to me, but maybe a high-rise garret stuffed with a giant state-of-the-art stereo is the 60s-future equivalent of "why are these working class people not content when every council flat is full of DVD players and Playstations and in my day we only had (etc etc)"
Read the book a) first and b) again much more recently than the film, so not sure what the film implies.
(Sorry to go back to old subthread)
― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Salvage 1! (Andy Griffith as the Astronaut Sanford, builds a rocketship of out scraps in his junkyard)
― shugazi (herb albert), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Matrix!
― Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
A "why are these working class people not content when every council flat is full of DVD players and Playstations and in my day we only had (etc etc)"
Well it's late 50s/ early 60s so it's more "Why is this generation, who have so much more money and freedom and opportunity than we had, so feckless and ungrateful and destructive?"
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
So, yes, decent hard-working w/c parents baffled by delinquent offspring
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe some of the later ones where zion is a utopian industrial disco for hard working free men with taut glistening muscles, but neo and trinity are str8 white collar.
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Starship Troopers is all about rejecting upper-class comforts and becoming a common grunt. Well, that and bug brains.
― Simon H., Friday, 4 June 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Neo is busted down though from fake white collar programming job to real gritty resistance movement on board a bust up ship where all they eat is gruel.
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
he's a nerd who becomes the messiah
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Dozer RIP
― shugazi (herb albert), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Starship Troopers is all about rejecting upper-class comforts and becoming a common grunt.
Uh... so's fascism. Watch it again.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, man, Starship Troopers is a big sucker punch.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Starship Troopers is all about if the Nazis won WW2
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"It's afraid!"
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxxxp nothing more working class than a messiah
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Blue collar, white halo
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Aye, nothing more working class than an anointed king who will usher in an age of peace and prosperity!
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Maximum OverdriveThe Last Starfighter?
― Trip Maker, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Mad Max duh
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
star wars!
― Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
doh, been said
Metropolis
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
farmboy = son of landowners.
probably raking it in from Empire grants tbh
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Wall-E
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
A Boy and his Dog
(Haven't seen the film but the short story certainly qualifies)
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks, guys, I was previously unaware of the subtle satiric content of a Paul Verhoeven movie.
― Simon H., Friday, 4 June 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
gruel, man gruel.
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Damnation Alley
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
not a film, but the old Sierra "Space Quest" series.
― sofatruck, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
alien 4 too
i wouldn't say alien 3 because all the prisoners seemed like they'd just come out of an english acting school, and thus they had to SHOUT VERY LOUD THEIR LINES. except Dance, he just quietly mumbled his way through his scenes.
― Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 4 June 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
lol came here to post Space Truckers but I see EZ Snappin beat me to it
"nobody jacks my load!"
― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 June 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Ice Pirates
and every other low-budget Star Wars rip-off
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 4 June 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Ned thankig u for that link, I have been wanting to see Dark Star for quite a while.
― Yes! Yes! Hammerheads! (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
This post was inevitable, deserved, and now we can all move on. :)
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link