Writing a whole, real book

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that's cool, some dude, will listen to u on maryland morning

harbl, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that is excellent, alex!

horseshoe, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes i think i wanna write a book because there is something i know a lot about and am interested in enough to read about all the time but i feel too intimidated/ashamed of lack of skill. could just blog but then i'd be a blogger.

harbl, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

thx y'all, just announced it a week or so back so i'm pretty excited right now. i probably won't go out of my way to talk about it on ilx, unless it gets close to the kickstarter deadline and there's still a ways to go, in which case i will start begging and being obnoxious about it.

unfinest states of america (some dude), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

would read all this harbl-penned books

horseshoe, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

some dude, will it be on Amazon & stuff when it's finished?

ksh, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah definitely

unfinest states of america (some dude), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome, will be buying this then

ksh, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

it never hurts to have the first/only book on a subject.

OTM

waffle stomper (m coleman), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Dads be writing!

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 5 June 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I've played with Scrivener a little bit but I can't quite tell what it promises to do for me that I'm not doing for myself. Its fans are certainly fans.

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 5 June 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to want to write a book but I think my heart was in the wrong place, i.e. I wanted to write a book for the sake of writing a book & being someone literary. nowadays I think I'd only want to write a book if I felt there was something I wanted to express and I could only do it in book form. I guess that time hasn't come yet.

denvil crowe (dyao), Sunday, 6 June 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm gonna write a memoir abt my first year on ilx & sell a billion copies

ksh, Sunday, 6 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i like scrivener

great for this big sprawling documentary project i'm working on where i have like 5,000 scraps, documents, pieces of research and whatnot

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

cool project some dude. the $200 reward is awesome!

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i know, right?

unfinest states of america (some dude), Monday, 7 June 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

is that just some producers doing it cuz they want to see the book happen?

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I once started to write The Great American Novel, I was a paragraph in when it was pointed out that I wasn't American.

louiiiis jjjjagger (S-), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

were you writing it in feces on the side of a wall or something

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

like most of us i have a major yearn to write a novel, but am a grammar spazzo.

so have been instead trying to 'draw' stories in graphic novel form. due to laziness, this hasn't happened yet.

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Drawing takes a lot more work than writing, in a way...nothing in writing is as tedious as cross hatching.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

ya but trying WRITING that

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what you mean.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"there was a little line, and then another one crossing it diagonally, sitting next to another little line..."

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha I see

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd even plump for a very rough sketched graphic novel really, something that at least you can grasp a story from, don't know why i haven't done this yet.

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've written at least 3 "proper" novels (well, as proper as anything unpublished is ever going to be) and one graphic novel. The graphic novel took waaaaaaayyyyy more time and effort. Never doing anything like that ever again, even if I had the time and the inspiration.

Cornish Kraffthwyrken (Masonic Boom), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

what did you find was the most time consuming part of your gn kate?

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Inking. Inking inking inking till you see little tiny circles in your dreams...

This was before there was really photoshop and scanning for corrections, as well, so any mistakes I made I'd end up layering the paper with white-out. Discovered that the corrective film used for typewriter mistakes is actually way better than white-out from a bottle. Smoother finish and also reproduced better. But the last time I got them out, the paper had all yellowed and the white-out was still as the white it was put down, it looked terrible. Some pages were more white-out than ink, honestly.

Cornish Kraffthwyrken (Masonic Boom), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

btw abbott u may be interested to learn i am working on a graphic novel version of my "smoking" idea

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

is that just some producers doing it cuz they want to see the book happen?

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, June 7, 2010 10:05 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, i just got the idea for that because a DJ and I just did a radio segment for the local NPR station, and at the end of the bit they had the DJ chop up the host's outro to a beat, which i thought was really cool. i basically have a lot of weird ideas like that in the works, will figure out who wants to work on that part of the project when it's all coming together.

unfinest states of america (some dude), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

slocki, that is a great idea whose pictorial time has come! I am fully stoked to hear this.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

GULP I'm writing two books at the moment: one fiction, and one I might just make some money on (but the fiction idea is really cool, never done before etc). More I cannot say.

baby you can drive my kaur (suzy), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

transformers novelization?

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think my agent could sell that, s1ocki.

baby you can drive my kaur (suzy), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

then u need a new agent!

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

No, I really don't. Again, more I cannot say.

baby you can drive my kaur (suzy), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

question: been working on an ideas and comprehensive notes for a fiction novel. it's the first time i've ever written anything of any massive length though, seems intimidating. i've got a load of scenes, characters, plots, ideas, etc all sketched out but haven't started writing it yet. i'm wondering if to switch it to a screenplay, or script for radio? or even a series of short stories. sounds kinda dumb but i'm stuck at the moment wondering which is the best route to go down, for a couple of reasons: time (radio thing would be done in a fraction of the time, plus my subject matter lends itself well to sound) and market forces (i understand a one off radio play is more likely to be picked up than a novel).

anyone else been in this position? sounds silly but is there some kind of checklist i can run through to help decide or is it a case of just picking one and going at it?

NI, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure I'm in a position to advise, because I still haven't finished one, but I'd say they're very different things. If you want to do internal lives, it has to be a novel; if it's one-on-one relationships, then drama; protagonist-in-society might be more screenplay; that kind of thing.

If your instinct says 'play', write it like that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

that's actually quite helpful. thanks IK

NI, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link


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