― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― stoked for the madness (nickalicious), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
"What Michael Richards said is completely racist and unjustified."So nobody here can think it possible for him to be trying to point out racist heckling, using the terms of racism to display it? Sure he's a twat, and does it incredibly flat-footedly, but motivations matter. Or perhaps not.
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Well put.
― Noilly Prat (kenan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
They do matter, but I've come to understand that somehow we're able to intuit motivations simply from behavior.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
You think that's what his post indicates? Because I think it's pretty irrelevant to this.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM. He reacted like that, which makes me think he was being victimized. I could be wrong -- Americans have a good history of being right on how best to handle matters of race.
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
??!?!
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nathan P1p (hoyanathan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost, Alex, he's being a douche, no worries.
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Monday, 20 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Who the fuck is arguing it isn't?
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Why do you think he did it? What makes it plausible?
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Not to mention that while the first part is technically correct, the second part rather explicitly isn't. He didn't merely reference lynching, he rather specifically used the word "we," the construction was very conspiratorial, like he expected the audience to agree with him.
xpost Alex, jaymc is kind of having his own private thread as established earlier. Also the fork thing is OTM, what a weird thing to say.
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Is there some reason that cracker is not a racist term in your mind?
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Nobody explicitly, but the general tone of the thread implied it.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM.
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i.e. context only matters wrt what the black dudes in the audience said, not, you know, America 1600-2006.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess that's why everybody calls each other nigga as a term of endearment and nobody calls each other cracker.
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link