xpost - heh. i'm just saying that's what went on in the blogosphere. some of these sites have since gone off the rails into conspiracy world, unfortunately. but i notice a lot of blogs do that. the republican sites are really lost right now & some of them crying about how ACORN stole the election..
going to read that newsweek piece now.
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Looks like another electoral vote for Obama -- thanks Omaha!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not sure this is the best image for Bush to have circulating right now:
I dunno. Being that he doesn't have to act cool for the election or anybody else, I wouldn't be surprised to see a reprise of the ol' finger video being updated.
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe he can give McCain an awkward hug now.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't want to get into it with daria, really, but if any of the stuff you cite was included in that 81 pages it would be miraculous since according to the Newsweek article Bill produced it right after New Hampshire and nearly all of those events occured well after.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm instantly put off by the first paragraph of the newsweek piece which implicitly reinforces a lot of right wing talking points - that democrats esp black democrats HAVE been primarily driven by identity politics, entitlement, resentment, etc. Just saying, the writer sounds like he's carrying a lot of unfortunate assumptions.
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Hahaha I started somewhere around the third section, but I have to note that identity politics, entitlement, and resentments certainly do strike me as accurate frameworks for understanding the primary
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was gonna say!
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
can we start placing bets on who plays the inaugural ball? I'm guessing Stevie Wonder
That would be PERFECT. I hope you're right.
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
da boss
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
U2, surely.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^NO
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
^^not American
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh, no way, wtf
― ILX MOD (musically), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
all three acts I mentioned have direct connections to Obama (Wilco did fundraiser shows, Obama has met/attended shows of Stevie's, also has met Jay-Z) fucking U2 = vomit
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
He seemed indifferent to, if not scornful of, the politics of identity and grievance. He showed no sense of entitlement or resentment.
see, to me it sounds like the writer has been listening to rush limbaugh complaining about liberals
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Lauryn Hill - January Surprise
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, Daria, I know what you mean; I think in the effort to contrast Obama with past molds of black politicians, he's actually contrasting Obama with reductive straw men and lumped-together criticisms of past molds of black politicians
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Obama has played U2's "City of Blinding Light" quite a bit at his rallies, but again, I don't think you invite an Irish band to a U.S. presidential inauguration.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Or perceptions of what's limiting about past generations of black politicians
I didn't mention U2 because I *wanted* them there, trust me. (Then again I don't want Bruce there either.) Besides, we are talking about a band led by Mr. "Look! The flag in my jacket! Do you see!"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
what the hell is wrong with all of you that you are discussing really lame inauguration performances anyway
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i can't actually think of anything, even a u2 performance, that would make me want to stab myself in the face more than kanye performing at the inauguration btw, thanks for that one.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
there is also no way in hell jay-z would be picked due to the fact that he is a "scary" "gangsta rapper" (btw my favorite bit in that newsweek thing so far is seriously transcription of jay-z lyrics to explain dirtonshoulder.gif)
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
"do pimps actually do this?? fact check!"
Umm I think Kanye's prime-time involvement in American politics was officially cashed in during Katrina
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
SHELLAC!
(sorry schef, you'z asking for that one)
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
oh come on, Chicago-native Kanye "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" West would be totally entertaining
Steve Albini also acceptable
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the dirt-off-shoulder as some kind of explicit Jay-Z riff seems really off to me -- surely the gesture's been in general circulation long enough that it's not some direct reference
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Or rather, "not best interpreted as some direct reference"
Obama cameo on "my black ass"
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
shakey, i'm aware of who kanye is and did not need his mini-bio, and still find him totally not entertaining at all. like even from the "haha it'd be hilarious for kanye to say something off the cuff and 'shocking' again wouldn't it?" standpoint that i'm kinda wondering if you're coming from...
xpost yeah nabisco i know! i just lolled
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Spoon Dinosaur Jr. SpiritualizedM. WardGhostface and RaekwonLes Savy FavThe Apples in StereoBorisDirty ProjectorsTimes New Viking Cut CopyBon Iver DodosOccidental Brothers Dance Band InternationalKing Khan & His ShrinesEl GuinchoHEALTHHigh PlacesMahjongg
― omar little, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
the writer also believes that the mainstream press suffers from "liberal guilt"
<sigh>
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
tha baws
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
John Prine on a side stage.
― Michael White, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
daria read the postmortem for the awesome stories basically
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
guys, we've forgotten Ministry \;_;/
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Every Day Is Inaugural Ball-oween
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
can we start placing bets on who plays the inaugural ball?
I'm guessing Stevie Wonder, Wilco, fingers crossed for Jay-Z or Kanye
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, November 6, 2008 10:31 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
I was hearing Lupe was a solid bet--Chicago, "conscious," nothing for the wingnuts to take of context & go nuts about in terms of his lyrics--but I'd be super shocked if there was anybody there that homie would have to face inane questions about ("President Obama do you approve of the sentiments in "Cashmere Thoughts," and what do you say to your female supporters who are offended by them?").
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
wow 4 billion xps
I find Kanye kinda obnoxious on a personal level, enjoy some of his music, thought his Katrina moment was absolutely awesome, see some parallels between him and Obama that would make him a conceivably realistic choice - that's all
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
the boss
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
LOLOLOLOL - nabisco
John Mellencamp is a serious contender tho.. Indiana was a big win for Obama compared to 2004, also Mellencamp campaigned for Obama (and the Dems in general)
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
boner jamz
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
well yeah
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
teh bos
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I think we need to find some guns and religion for daria to cling to
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
nothing for the wingnuts to take of context & go nuts about in terms of his lyrics
are you crazy??? also hes not nearly popular enough
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Al Green
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link