el boso
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
KANSAS could open
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
then toto could play AFRICA!>!>!>!>>!>!>!
Chicago were ultimately an Los Angeles band, though (seriously!)
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
The Suburbs are going to reunite for a special one-time performance
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Ugh... ok, Chicago if they only do first album jams like Poem and New Beginnings.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
my friend took some really awesome pixx @ the rally - ill post some of them here soon
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
shhh deej we're talking about terrible bands with tenuous obama connections that could play at the inauguration
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
SAAAATURDAY IN THE PARK I THINK IT WAS THE 20TH OF JANUARY
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
smashing pumpkins obv
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i bet theyll pick common cause hes boring and inoffensive and from chicago
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
NO SMASHING PUMPKINS
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
OK give Daria a break, what she's giving here is INFORMATION, not her personal opinion. Respect that.
No Common or Luda because they go to UCC. Kanye is a great fit actually and I'll eat my shoe if they don't at least invite Beyoncé and Jay-Z, who is basically now shielded from past associations by virtue of - if not his success - his marriage. Destiny's Child one-off for his girls instead? Female performer mentions thin on the ground here, disappointed!
― thesaurus is not a 6000 year old bag of bones, sarah (suzy), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
MY LIFE WITH THE THRILL KILL KULT
BET ON IT
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the dirt-off-shoulder as some kind of explicit Jay-Z riff seems really off to me -- surely the gesture's been in general circulation long enough that it's not some direct reference
I guess, but Jay-Z was the first thing I thought of when he did it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://bp2.blogger.com/_mIPUrjIVnas/SAeh8Dr5k6I/AAAAAAAAACk/mGKl6tP3sp0/s400/2340317881_662005e885
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Dirt off shoulder? This is a thing?
― Fred Dalton Township (Laurel), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Female performer mentions thin on the ground here, disappointed!hard pressed to name a big female performer from Chicago, apart from Mavis Staples.
who would be a great choice, actually.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
You can have them all...
Dwight D Eisenhower's first inauguration in 1953 was the longest ever. It included 73 bands, 59 floats and horses and elephants and lasted four-and-a-half hours.
― fat penne (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
This is not particularly surprising considering how often Jay-Z is mentioned around this particular demographic combined with how much time we all waste here!
omg I really hope Obama gets an elephant instead of a puppy, gangsta
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, Shakey, I wouldn't have thought anything strange about considering it a gesture stemming from or with particular currency in some broader "hip-hop culture" or whatever weasely words you want to put there -- there was just something odd about quoting the single like the dude invented it
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
daria read the postmortem for the awesome stories basically
yeah, i'm trying. i just can't help but be stunned by the degree to which.. this is a group of writers i suppose.. they have internalized so many right wing talking points from the past few decades. there is specific language to this that continually jumps out at me. liberal media, my ass.
hey no worries i don't feel like anyone is getting on my shit here.
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
hard pressed to name a big female performer from Chicago, apart from Mavis Staples.
Liz Phair, duh
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
is she actually "big" anymore? I used to work with her dad.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Daria I have a hard time thinking of that group of writers as having internalized anything right-wing (and besides, the group of writers listed there are basically just the Newsweek reporting sources listed throughout, not authors) -- maybe helps to remember that they are talking about campaign optics more than reality here, so of course the language is going to play against party narratives on both sides.
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
mod request: move thread to ILM pls
― I DIED, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
nah shakey, she's slimmed down quite a bit
― BYE! GOOD (latebloomer), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Killdozer, for god's sake
(ok, now following I DIED's lead from here on out)
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
No results found for "petition for sam prekop as inaugural ball performer".
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
boner jamz
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
― i love to hear this again and again (gbx), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
^^not American
Didn't Steel Pulse play at Clinton's '93 inaugeration?
― fat penne (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
YOUR INAUGURAL BALL MUSIC PERFORMER PREDICTION THREAD
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
oops shoulda said 2009
nabisco, i'm afraid i don't understand what you're saying with that..
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
mavis staples is a great choice - i post it here now bcuz i dont feel like posting in an entire thread devoted to this discussion
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
didn't staples put out an album on election day?
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link
The Obama campaign did not want to get caught up in trying to satisfy all the interest groups that make up the modern Democratic Party—the one that had lost seven of the last 10 presidential elections. The John Kerry campaign set up elaborate liaison offices dedicated to ethnic groups, organized labor, groups for the disabled, for women, for gays and lesbians.
^^ OK, stuff like this, writers like -> "interest groups" make the democrats losers, winning campaigns shouldn't do much of anything to work with them.
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't think the kerry campaign lost because it had liason offices to gay and lesbian groups, disabled groups, organized labor, etc. the correlation just doesn't make any sense to me.
― T-PALIN (daria-g), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
the sentence itself makes no sense. bad writing.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
The Obama campaign seems to have thought it was a waste of resources, though.
― Michael White, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont think it reads like 'not paying attention to interest groups helped them win!', more like 'sticking to a winning strategy meant focusing on a ground game and not paying a bunch of PR hacks'
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― gabbneb, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yep
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.barackobama.com/images/people/aa.jpg
http://www.barackobama.com/images/people/da.jpg
http://www.barackobama.com/images/people/rural.jpg
http://origin.barackobama.com/people
― ✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I read that more as "splitting everybody up into micro-managed groups was a stupid inefficient strategy". which is the truth.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I read that sentence as "the Obama campaign chose to focus on giving a consistent message rather than attempting to be all things to all people or please all of the constituents of the Democratic Party". The use of the term "interest groups" seems like lazy shorthand to me.
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah sorry, Daria, I didn't unpack that nearly well enough. What I mean is that when you're recapping a campaign, you're talking about how the personas of the candidates are formed and managed, and that is stuff that inevitably happens against a context of certain myths and expectations and narratives from both sides of the political spectrum -- those things are the very water you're swimming in, and how much they are, umm, epistemologically true is kinda secondary to the fact that they're how elections work and how voters often think about things. So I don't think it betrays any internalization of right-wing talking points for Newsweek reporters to talk in some of those terms and refer to those narratives; that's the very substance of what they're reporting on. So, e.g., saying that Obama has a disdain for identity politics could be read not as assertion that other black politicians absolutely have, but a suggestion of how he's broken from perceptions of black politicians -- "perceptions," in the context of a campaign story, being weirdly interconnected with "truth." (I also don't think that statement is particularly untrue, particularly if you broaden it to talk more generationally about black politicians in Obama's age group.)
xpost - Daria that statement about interest groups is flatly declarative! You're taking issue with a very low-level suggestion that catering to interest groups is something that sunk Kerry and Obama got beyond, but keep in mind that you are reading an article about how Obama won an election, and pretty much anything he did differently from previous Democratic losers is going to be of note as a point of interest!
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
P.S. I used the word "optics" since this seems to be the word used by analysts and commentators that completely carries the freight of the difference between what they think is epistemologically true and how something works in terms of a campaign -- e.g., "I don't think it's weird for Sarah Palin to buy a crapload of new clothes for a national campaign, but yes, the optics of it are terrible"
― nabisco, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
turns out it was also flat-out terrible, though
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link