Gays, its summer 2010 so... EVERYBODY TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRTS

I was out of college in '85 and barely remember "Oh Sheila."

When are we gonna get over this "gay enough" stuff? It's all become-commodified-mainstream-gay stuff. I love cock and I'm a lousy dresser!

LOL!

Hi guys! I'm more of a lurker these days. :( All I do is work lately.

I'm a lousy dresser

I am so with you on that.

don't believe you tbh

My friend's sister recently asked me "Are you sure you're gay?" after I said I didn't like Glee or Lady Gaga. I said, "I'm way too good at sucking dick to not be gay." What a wasted talent that would be, otherwise. Not braggin', just sayin'.

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Well, I guess it's hard to dress offensively bad when you only wear the plainest clothes possible. :)

So my boss is going to let me work in our NYC office for a while if I can find a good place to sublet.

how many ppl actually lurk this thread?

― plax (ico), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i do. i think i posted about my so-called life once but mostly i lurk. hello though!

i'd like a so-called life

I have v little gay friends.

What's wrong with that?

http://i41.tinypic.com/2cr518o.jpg

so jed, y'all are off-again atm?

oh yes and there's no desire to go back tbh.

o wow, i'm sorry darlin. i hope you're taking good care of yourself.

So my date went pretty well, but for some reason I am way more nervous now than I was before it.

Catching up.

Don't be afraid to feel, Rev!

Sorry to hear about the off-again, jed.

As to the post-85 thing, now I feel old, because I def feel like I have more than my share of gay friends. So clearly I was born before. Or something.

rev i always find i am more nervous if something is actually good enough to warrant it. it's a good sign!

nervousness after a date's gone well >>>> boredom and disillusionment after a date's gone badly

i totally get the "not gay enough" vibe off a lot of gay men (and GIRLS too, bizarrely - only a few, but the kind of fag-haggy girls one comes across a lot in the entertainment industry), which is odd given that most of my straight friends would probably consider me pretty gay - it's kind of like being caught in the middle in terms of stereotypes? i mean, it's not as if i can think of anything i'd need specifically gay friends in order to do, though.

the last date i went on, we met at a mariah carey album playback (which...lol, i guess) and got on super-well there, then it turned out over a meal (in a shitty chain restaurant! ugh why do i let anyone else choose where to eat ever, so many quality cheap places in london, there should never be any need to go somewhere like that) that he was one of those perma-bitchy, super-prejudiced types who kept calling women "sluts" every five seconds. really unpleasant to sit through. and then despite the fact that we'd originally bonded over r&b i got some real race issues vibes off him when it came to, like, poor black people, and this was confirmed when he used the actual phrase "black council estate trolls", at which point i neeeeearly just got up and left. this is why i hate gay men sometimes.

Fag hags are the most disgusting savages on Earth imo. Luckily my bisexuality more or less precludes me from them.

Btw, thanks for the kind words, guys. Just got done chatting with this guy again and we might see each other tomorrow, too!

xxp for a v long time I mistakenly assumed all gay men were, like, feminists, and would get confused/upset when gay men would say weird sexist or generally unintelligent things about women. Well, I get upset when everyone does it but I thought gay men knew better.

Nah, gay men are still misogynists. Just a more refined version.

Gay men who call women "cunts" as a term of affection are just like...man, fuckin' knock it off

What about the ones who actually mean it? (i.e. in reference to, say, Ann Coulter)

rev i always find i am more nervous if something is actually good enough to warrant it. it's a good sign!

Ramz is OTM. Congrats on your date, Rev.

Re: the "not gay enough" thing- I guess I get this a little from my bf's group of friends. I get the feeling it's more that they think I'm "weird" in general though (artsy-fartsy stoner with social anxiety), and I tend to avoid them pretty frequently as a result.

But then I have a handful of gay friends of my own where this isn't a problem at all.

Fag hags are the most disgusting savages on Earth imo.
Wait, how are we defining "fag hag" exactly? Someone who isn't just friends with gays but latches on in a certain way?

yeah the whole androphilia-misogyny thing gets really weird, and i will totally cop to some of that bad behavior in my past. for me it had to do with the fact that i was raised with my older brother with my dad as the primary caregiver, then later had 5 more little brothers. i didn't really "get" "women" on a fundamental level for a long time -- meaning i was oblivious to my privileges as a dude.

my boyfriend, otoh, was raised "in the red tent," as he says, so i've gained some perpective in that regard, though i can still be stupid about it from time to time.

I think FH is kind of an awful term. I have at least one female friend who gravitates (somewhat) to gay men, but it's not an obsessive "oh-I'm-a-gay-man-on-the-inside" thing.

"Fruit fly" is much nicer.

gay men and women: it's complicated!

i wonder if "fag hags" are some kind of extension of gay diva worship, inasmuch as they allow gay dudes to take on the diva role themselves.

Yeah, I'm still close with my high school girlfriend. She has always had tons of gay friends, but she definitely has her own thing going on, too. Like her life doesn't revolve around gays. And it seems more like the gays flock to her than the other way around.

I'm hoping the change in attitudes will make the concept of a FH redundant.

Wouldn't mind being in with a few more fag stags, tbh.

the woman I described above once expressed admiration for the way I act like 'John Wayne' lol

This, in the name of Pride Month ...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/4729588728_d43ca76f29.jpg

i just...

i can't even.

Meh, I think I look more or less like Herbie Mann's Push Push album cover, but whatev.

(failing to see how this is a bad thing?) (also you've got quite a pair in that corner up there)

verrry... nice

looking good, Eric!

echoing sentiments and saying HOTTT, Eric. And I have way too many fag stags, come to NYC and take them.

you've got quite a pair in that corner up there

Haha, yeah, I def cropped to keep those (ceiling fan cords) in the frame.

Do I see a DVD copy of Three Men and a Baby in the upper righthand corner?

If the three men are Bradley Cooper, Ed Helms and Zach Galifianakis.

You definitely have June nailed down in the 2011 online film crix calendar.

So is all that from rockclimbing and piano?

"all that" hah ... I'm still frustrated that I've hit such a plateau and haven't gotten any real bulk, but I also don't want to, say, buy a tub of protein powder

Oh, and as for the calendar, I got pushed out by Gene Shalit.

http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/images/criticwatch/criticwatch_shalit.jpg

you have as much as you need, imho. xp

It's OK, the lab refused to print Harry Knowles' shot.

So my gay pride weekend: Mets and 7 hours of Judy in A Star is Born

Is that movie now longer than Satantango?

no, 4 hrs of supplements.

eric's photo has inspired me to go to the gym today!

you look hot E

still waiting for ti@rnan's foto op