ILE Weight Watchaz

Go for bike rides instead; saves your joints.

here is my weight progress during the past eight weeks:

178 --> 172 --> 166 --> 158 --> 164 --> 172

and i am really fucking frustrated, because of how little i am eating (and how carefully, to get my proteins, fibers, fats) and how much i am working out. i am allowing the possibility that i have gained a lot of muscle, given the 50-60 minute resistance routine i do 6x/weekly, but i kinda think that cutting out my cardio in exchange for this resistance (or downgrading it from 3000 c./week to 1500 c./week) was an epic mistake.

plz assess my old routine vs my new one?

old routine
heavy cardio (e.g. 950c. exercise M-W-F) / heavy weightlifting
Tue-Thu-Sa)

new routine
250 cardio every day & heavy upper body weightlifting and resistance (M-W-F) / heavy lower body weightlifting and resistance (Tue-Thu-Sa)

6 hours of resistance a week sounds like overtraining to me. What/how are you lifting?

have you been measuring your waist circumference? if you're weight training , this is a good idea. i mean, it's been said before, but if your pants are fitting better, if you can actually see more muscle, how much does the scale really matter?

i have lost like 5 lbs in the past 2 wks b/c of my 40-min-each-way bike commute. which is in turn making me pay more attn to what i eat and when. also it is no longer winter. all of this is good.

i am doing an interval strength training. the 'heavy day' routine from my trainer:

3 x 15 pushups
8 x 12 toe-elevator-thingies on the stairs (i like these a lot)
3 x 1 minute planks
3 x 12 leg lifts in captain's chair
9 x 12 leg press @ 70lb. (3 sets w. feet shoulder distance apart, 3 w. feet pressed together, 3 w. feet extended as far as possible)
3 x 12 assisted dips @ 90 lb
3 x 12 assisted pullups @ 90 lb
3 x 12 lateral pulldowns @ 50 lb
3 x 12 chest press @ 65 lb (this is the hardest for me)
3 x 12 ball crunches (upper), 3 x 12 ball crunches (lower)
3 x 12 wall sits /hammer curl @ 15x2 lb
3 x 12 skullcrushers @ 20 lb
3 x 12 (ea. arm) side lifts (lean to the side, stand up straight, repeat) @ 15 lb
3 x 12 (ea. leg) mountaineers
20 reclining leg lifts

3 x 12 lunges w. 20 lb. weight over head

Oh ok. Personally, I think interval strength training is mostly just good at keeping you in the gym 6 hours a week... Is it really more than just cardio? You *are* targeting a lot of individual muscles, which is a good thing, but are you getting significantly stronger? Have your weights gone up? Are you building new muscle? You're resting each muscle group a lot going through each interval, but I feel like you're doing too many reps of too little weight. Yeah, you're doing 9 sets of 12, but 70lb leg presses is a joke. You should be doing at least your body weight.

If you weren't doing anything at all prior to 8 weeks ago, this is a fair way to get you warmed up - using the equipment, practicing form, breaking yourself in - but I think it's probably time you moved to fewer sets, fewer reps, and probably significantly more weight. Go slow, with a 4 count on the up motion and the down motion, and if you can do more than 12 reps in a set, increase the weight. I'd try alternating between your current sessions and heavier, shorter sessions to shake things up and see how things feel.

Kerm is otm here.

If you want strength, do high weights and low reps. If you want size, do low weights and high reps. Don't do low weights and low reps because you will actually be wasting your time.

At the end of your last set for each exercise, regardless of the type of weight training you're doing, you MUST be rooted. This is the best and only way to get significant results. You need to feel as though you've completely fucked your muscles. My leg presses are over 400lb, and my legs are not even that strong. Sorry but 70lb won't do a thing. Honestly. Walking up stairs will give you a better workout than 70lb, unless you weigh less than 70lb.

btw I'm not advocating injuring yourself. Build up to the heavier weights. On legs, though. you should have no trouble doing more than 150lb right now.

dieting is hard. i have like 2 more weeks. yuck

and then what?

Back on the cakes.

hahaa NO! after the diet my plan is start a healthy protein rich regimen.

diet-->diet

haha i know. well i'm one of these ppl that looks good really skinny! it sucks tho cuz i love the weight on my face, just not on my hips :/

I want to calorie count, but I cook from fresh and I don't bother measuring unless it's baking. So I basically can't be arsed.

I gained nearly 20 lbs since last year and it won't come off. I've made it a point to be more active and to eat less crap, but still no result. I was on Weight Watchers 2 years ago and it really worked, but the food kinda sucked.

ok i'm still goin. i think i've figured out if i can get past the 4th day i'm good.

but i'm definitely a little cranky this week

ok so what i'm not supposed to talk about my eating habits with my friend cuz she like can't diet? i think she just got upset with me because she's just not that way

she's like all upset now!

sur, it's her issue! you shouldn't personalize it even though that seems to be what she's doing

yes, i think she is a bit....

"Don't talk to me about fruits and vegetables! I'm on a strict bacon and Doritos regimen for medical reasons!!! It's part of my culture. It's who I AM!"

hehehehe

she's dropping the anorexia word now! look i can starve myself for 2 weeks without being anorexic. and i can talk about it! i mean, i don't talk about it all the fucking time but this is what's happening in my life. i'm hungry.

ok she just said she's jealous. this is awful i'm liveblogging an argument

starving yourself for 2 weeks doesn't seem healthy.

i don't diet healthy, i diet fast

sur i know this goes to another thread but maybe your dieting has something to do with blaxxing out (also dehydration from teh heat)

lol i know. i learned that lesson

i don't know is it insensitive to talk about things like this? i mean should i not talk about dieting around people who aren't into that kind of thing? i don't get it

just the whole concept of "dieting" seems so old fashioned, isn't it better just to eat healthy (without starving your body) all the time?

yes, most people don't want to hear about that shit.

because?

so i took the advice of this thread, and i have relost about five pounds. also, my shoulders are getting big.

everyone loses weight their own way.

ohh good!

people talk about a lot of shit i don't want to hear about but they should still be able to talk about it without any grief

well ... if somebody's health at stake for the sake of their vanity, there's a reasonable objection to be made for providing hard truths.

theoretically.

i guess i'm just on the fence when it comes to the responsibility of being sensitive discussing issues of weight around certain people. i mean, i have to hear about allll the pork chops pizza and chips. i kinda feel like, i'm gonna talk about my fucking strawberries.

because it seems vain and a lot of people are self-conscious about their weight?

xp

it's more fun to talk about eating good food than not eating good food.

Hearing about other ppls diets can be k-boring. I mean I'm not saying always boring--I read this thread, right?--but maybe yr friend is just like "OK can we talk about something else already?"

i.e. "ME"

i guess so Jordan, i guess you're right. no, really i haven't been talking her ear off about it. she just all sensitive cuz she has issues with her weight and can't lose it that way.

wow i just got upset

I get a bit annoyed when people tell me about their clearly incredibly unhealthy dieting habits, because I can't even tell whether they're looking for praise, envy, or concern, but sometimes it's obviously some kind of competitive ego-padding or attention-seeking. Like if I'm eating a sandwich for lunch, and the other person says "If I skip breakfast and lunch for another week, do you think I'll look less fat, or should I skip dinners too?" That just seems manipulative, like the person is trying to make me get really worried about them, or feel guilty that I'm not skipping meals, or something. I think there are insensitive ways to talk about it.

ok see this is the thing. i guess i get that? but whenever i talk about, i talk about because it's just a big part of my life. eating is a big part of our lives. and i'm just a very open person. so. there ya go.