So, I guess a fast one like the one that was about minstrelry on Chapelle last night is ok though? It's the slow ones that ppl are not responding to?
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link
So I guess you've not watched Mind of Mencia, either.
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
(Also Carlos Mencia is really fucking odd because he's aggresively unfunny but there is an aspect to what he's saying that strikes my "OTM!" button sometimes; there's an entire routine he does in his standup about being uncomfortable doing a show for an audience full of Down's Syndrome patients that is an extended riff on the idea of "if you can't say something about a group of people to someone from that group of people, the thing you're trying to say is not at joke", a sentiment I agree with but GOD WHY CAN'T YOU BE FUNNY WITH YOUR "JOKES", YOU GIGANTIC BAG OF DOUCHE)
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link
Bamboozled is totally incoherent, it actually made me feel kinda bad for Spike that he had made such an amateurish mess. I didn't even make it all the way to the end for the "payoff".
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Stephen Colbert's interview with Julian Bond last night pwnz all, BTW.
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
I just think there was more to the popularity of minstrelsy than the joy of watching people stand around in blackface. Emmett Miller, Al Jolson, etc - people who were talented but exploiters of a very fucked up culture. The movie kinda missed that (some of the Savion Glover stuff got near it), and gave an out to folks who love all kinds of modern racist shit but would never watch what was on that Mantan show. God help me for quoting him, but Ebert's review gets at the point pretty well ("To satirize black shows on TV, Lee should have stayed closer to what really offends him; I think his fundamental miscalculation was to use blackface itself. He overshoots the mark. Blackface is so blatant, so wounding, so highly charged, that it obscures any point being made by the person wearing it. The makeup is the message."). Admittedly, if you think that white people just eat up any racist shit they can get (which could definitely be argued), then this means nothing.
― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
what an idiot.
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― BORAT (nickalicious), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Have you watched Mind of Mencia?2) If you have, have you noticed that a rather significant portion of his jokes are about Mexicans? 3) And, by Mexicans, do you realize I don't mean "Hispanics" but rather specifically "Beaners" and "Wetbacks" and "Mexicans" (Mencia's own words)?
In other words, if you don't have an actual point to make besides vague random accusations of ppl not "understanding" that Mencia himself is not a Mexican (it's not even the dude's real last name. I know! I read boing boing too etc), can you please go back to ranting about Israel?
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― not the world i want to live in (tremendoid), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 July 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link
which is weird, given how no character in the movie raises that. like it was left behind in another draft. because a movie about the insidiousness of that idea might fall down less often than bamboozled does.
(note that apart from the burnt cork the minstrel show in bamboozled is not very similar at all to an actual 1800s minstrel show.) (the videotape at the end suggests that at least someone must have realised that, even if lee didn't.) (or maybe lee did and we're indulging in unproductive readings of the movie.)
one thing i would say, the framing of the shots + the editing = pretty uniformly ugly. compared to the only other two spike lee films i've seen, very much so.
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link
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