Project Runway

i was happy to see KS swallow a nugget. miss self-righteous needed taken down a notch. i think the producers did a fine job of making wendy less of a bad guy for this episode, which is nice. she's still paranoid as hell tho! sheesh!

everybody on this thead, stay back from me! you've all got motives!

i got a spacebar and i know how to use it!
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I loved Jay's line. It looked like the direction fashion is going. And I was glad they acknowledged his innate creativity and gave that precedence over KS's polish and professionalism.

To be honest, I liked Wendy's clothes better than Kara's. Then again, I'm middle-aged. And I've never been such a fan of leather and fur.

Wendy came off better than I'd expected, actually. I thought KS's refusing to speak to her was incredibly childish and was glad Wendy called bullshit on it. Anyhow, Wendy struck me as very DC careerist conservative, in demeanor & in taste, so she made more sense to me after this episode.

no joke! that was something that sorta stuck out that the judges missed... "oh he's just sitting in pennsylvania doing his own little thing!" well, not really. cross fort thunder yarnism with japanese anime/cosplay fashions... aherm.

another note: dude, i really hated the music wendy chose for her models to walk to. omg badness. i know that shouldn't matter, but it was painful.

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and wendy, ew. she comes from creepy old southern money. did you see her face when she called jay a "whippin' boy"? im sure she would have preferred "slave" or something far worse.

KS disappointed me with the shoe incident and the clothes were ultimately too thirties/too deco, though I absolutely understand the kind of rage she had where she could barely speak to WP or even sleep in the same room as her.

So those who grew up in L.A. are only capable of "vapid glamour?" Please.

i didn't think that was WP, but more the producers trying to lighten the hate mail a little. i don't like wendy's work and she definitely can't defend her craziness, but look at her from the point of view that she's near 40ish, she's desperate for some kind of break, and this show was maybe her last chance to try to get to her dream job. at least she believes that. in that context, her behavior ain't shit. i still say, on a savagery ten scale graded for The Apprentice, she's a mean 3.

let's face it, there are a lot of wendy peppers out there who won't even get the shot she got. who among them would gladly fight and do even worse to get the same chance she got? plenty i bet. i don't have my dream job. what would i do? i can't say really. ask me in ten years when i'm shopping for knife sharpeners. heh.
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had to share.

Wendy Pepper passed away.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/17/wendy-pepper-project-runway-dead/

Last month, Mychael Knight from season 3 died

http://ew.com/tv/2017/10/17/project-runway-contestant-mychael-knight-dead/

Watching the climate change episode rn

man there are a million threads on this show

Anyone watching this first post-Klum & Gunn season? I was skeptical at first but it's been pretty good (with a note that my watching over the past few years was kind of spotty), Christian Siriano is a way more empathetic and involved consultant. I thought he did a good job in this week's setting up CFDA mentorship for the winner; I seem to remember him being the one that said publicly it was kind of insane after he won PR, he had no idea how to run a business and it was overwhelming. I also like Kloss against my better judgement (knowing she's with a Kushner). AS for the calls on the contestants: it seems obvious to me that Bishme is the best of the remaining designers (Garo is good but that corset thing gets tired...I know that's his whole gig but it would be good to see something without it) and the less said about millenial sunshine the better.

I am on episode 5? The episodes seem really long and I don't love the new workspace (it makes everything seem muted) but i agree with most of your comments re Siriano and Kloss (also omg she is so tall). I kind of laugh at the stylist. Like, I like her attitude but whenever they show her instagram posts of her squatty fashion I laugh.

Siriano is crazy talented. I am so happy that his business is doing well.

I have no clue who that male judge is but he sucks.

He bugged me for a while too but I came around on him by the end of the season. He's no zak posen obviously.

How dare you forget Michael Kors!

Kors was annoying.

the lifetime-era heidi/tim/posen seasons were really enjoyable... i tried watching the new season and after two episodes i just thought it had lost almost all of the magic. but maybe i wasn't being generous enough

you guys are right about christian tho, he was clearly the bright spot

My main problem with the lifetime era was the odd suburbaness of it. Like being sponsored by JC Penny and Red Robin.

I think I appreciated Kors' bone deep bitchiness that comes with age.

Siriano is the most successful of any PR winner, AFAIK; in fact, he may be the only successful one? What has happened to the others?

I love the new season - turns out the majority of the Lifetime guard leaving has been the best thing the show has done in years. Christian Siriano is, as noted, the best thing about the show so far. He's less paternal than Tim Gunn, but more helpful. Karlie Kloss is whatever as a host. I actually like Brandon Maxwell, he's clearly Kors-lite but he's still critical when it counts.

Out of the final four, I'm rooting for Sebastian. Bishme for my runner-up. I can't stand Garo and his fucking corsets and Hester is v hit-or-miss.

xpost I watched the super All Star season with international winners from past seasons. I think there have been some successful people just not on the level as Siriano actually doing high fashion.

yeah I just dug up an article on all the winners, most are still working in fashion in some way but none at his level. I forgot about some of those earlier winners, like that asshole neck tattoo dude.

I was trying to find this lengthy older article about Siriano's business problems post PR but everything hitting is from this year's PR debut. It was really good though that he embraced designing for non-model types in a way that felt sincere and not just cashing in in the moment. Like it was obscene that no one wanted to design a dress for Leslie Jones.

The right designer won! What a great season, really.

Also, the next season is airing this fall? Really? Did they shoot these these new Bravo seasons back to back?

I am assuming Hester Cosplay did not win? I think I am still around 8 designers left.

completely random but yesterday in a super small one stall bathroom at a conveyer belt sushi place i startled the woman at the sink by yelling "YOU WERE ON PROJECT RUNWAY!" (it was the super angular asian model on the recent season)

anyone tune into Making the Cut? It's quite good. As much as I like Christian Siriano he's the only thing about PR that is still good.

Making the Cut is essentially exactly the same show, with the difference that all the designers are a lot further along in their careers and the prize money is way higher so the expectation is that whoever wins this really will launch into a much bigger brand. So far there have also been fewer design fails. The only thing I dont like about Making the Cut is that the judge panel has Naomi Campbell on it and she's so incredibly unpleasant.

I am LOVING this show. The clothes are amazing. Sander and Esther are my favourites and I really don't see what they see in Johnny.

Naomi is great TV. I can see how her directness can come across as rude but I actually think it's very honest and the praise she gives is always really precise and useful and celebratory. I'm sure Simon Cowell has said nastier things on his shows and got away with it.

Chiara Ferragni seems the weak link to me - she doesn't seem to have anything useful to contribute. It is hilarious how blatant they've made it that Nicole Richie couldn't get a visa for Japan though.

Also the budget for this must be unreal. Not just the main prize but the weekly ones too. And it looks gorgeous on screen too. When Esther went for a swim I wanted to jump in that water, it was so beautifully shot.

oh is that what happened to richie? I actually forgot she was even on it. you'd think they would have researched that more before hand.

wait are there THREE shows like this now

the Netflix one was quite good, or at least the designers were

the one bad thing about this show: the music is unbearable. too loud, generic, awful. go back to some bland vocal-free stuff please.

you guys are talking about Making the Cut? I only saw some headline about it dissing on Amazon so I kind of overlooked it, but it's good?

Yes. If you liked PR with Heidi and Tim you'll like it, it's essentially the same show with a bigger budget and more accomplished designers.