Lindsay Lohan: "Hot, Ready, and Legal!"

she cld do some oscar bait involving being a bit fucked up, like courtney love in larry flint, theron in monster, stone in casino. but wouldn't she just think it was boring

well in any event i think lohan always had it in her, and still has it in her, to be a heigl or a hudson. i dont think she ever had it in her to be a roberts

but people probably used to say the same thing about sandy bullock and now look at her

ugh if i ever have to see those ever i will be v sad

― janice (surm), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i would be embarrassed about saying 27 Dresses is aight but son you rep for Just My Luck

but i thought you just said that mean girls showed that she had it in her to be a roberts, max! i certainly felt that way at the time.

Sandra Bullock, Goldie Hawn, Fran Drescher, Lucille Ball, etc... all very, very shrewd tactically with their careers. LiLo, not so much.

imo the a-list right now would include heigl (well, ok, up to 'killers'). that isn't my value judgement of whether she's any good.

i guess there is a kind of platinum league of actors like julia roberts and tom cruise and will smith (and yeah i guess bullock... thanks america!), but there's no guarantee the current generation will produce similar figures. arguably they didn't exist before the eighties in quite the same way -- hollywood is always changing.

but which women are on max's a-list? (i'm not saying lindsay lohan is going to become america's sweetheart btw, just asking an OT question.)

but i thought you just said that mean girls showed that she had it in her to be a roberts, max! i certainly felt that way at the time.

― janice (surm), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:08 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha, no, i think it made people THINK she had julia roberts in her, but i dont think she ever did, and people just assume its the drugs and not the fact that shes just not that good

i think lohan was supposed to be a "big deal" ca. mean girls & freaky friday bcuz it seemed like she was a capable comedic actress - like there are lots of actresses that are pretty and some that are funny but its p rare to have someone that's pretty & funny? or least allowed to be?

ne way i dont think the line on lohan was ever that she had crazy acting talent but that shes talented in a specific, kinda special way. & this may be true but we have amy adams now so w/e

ts "we have emma stone now" vs "we have amy adams now"

we have emma stone now

o yes we do!

xxxp yeah, i love watching a young, cute, winning LL act like a slapstick goof in Just My Luck. katherine heigl's face makes me want to punch things.

but which women are on max's a-list? (i'm not saying lindsay lohan is going to become america's sweetheart btw, just asking an OT question.)

― frap your hands say yeah yeah yeah (history mayne), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:09 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was trying to come up with a list and got julia roberts, angelina jolie, sandra bullock--but i realized that bullock ten or fifteen years ago was probably not too far from a hudson or a heigl. and like, jennifer aniston, who makes bank but mostly does heigl-type roles w/ a 'serious' flick every couple years.

so yeah i think youre right, h'wood is changing, the a-list is gonna get bigger, or die off, or whatever.

i guess the neutral way to put it is--lohan will never come back to the place she was coming off of mean girls, in terms of earnings, prestige, popularity, whatever that place was. she can and maybe will come back to a place a little below that in earnings, prestige, popularity, imo.

ne way i think thats the thing that makes a big comeback unlikely or least p difficult for lohan - if your big distinguishing talent is that u can carry a mnstrm, commercial (non-romantic) comedy but yr too uninsurable/gross/fucked up to land that kinda role than ur p much finished

^^ good point

This must be it for me. I've never thought she was all that so now she's just worse (to me).

― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 10:52 AM

Yeah, this. ^^^ A couple of years ago she looked like 50 miles of bad road, and now she looks like 35 miles of bad road.

except obv SHE doesn't necessarily think that's what her "big thing" is if the last 2 memorable film choices she's made are "i know who killed me" and now "inferno"

also tbh i wouldn't be surprised if she was tweaking the whole time she was filming Mean Girls

when lohan first hit the radar she was this ultra-cuet moppet, which she can't credibly pull off any more now that she's more famous for drugs and jail than anything else

for some actresses that would be fine because they have the depth and chops to turn that kind of life experience into new types of roles - in fact it would almost be a blessing because age makes ultra-cuet moppetry unsustainable

the thing is lohan just doesn't have any more gears to shift to i don't think :(

ts "we have emma stone now" vs "we have amy adams now"

well i have no idea who tf emma stone is (british?) & amy adams gets equal billing with arguably the most a-list actress around so

she obviously would need a break, a good role in a good film, and it's not exactly a time of great risk-taking in hollywood at the moment. lot of indie films with pretty well-known actors barely getting distribution. like that one film michelle monaghan did ('trucker'?). there's no point in her doing machine-made romcoms a la 'when in rome', 'the ugly truth', 'the wedding bride', etc.

i have no idea who tf emma stone

kewt redhead from 'superbad' and 'zombieland'

but im willing to believe that lohans trainwreck has made her seem in retrospect like a bigger (potential) star than she actually was

^ this - people can read whatever they want into the "squandered potential" storyline, it's infinitely expandable, especially where youth is concerned. also, i don't know that people thought LL was gonna be this or that kind of star ("the next julia roberts" or whatever), but it was obvious that she was going to be a big star of some kind. continued, massive celeb-cult interest after years of fucking-up, looking bad and doing nothing much attests to this, if perversely.

i guess the forthcoming linda lovelace movie is basically supposed to be her bid for depth and credibility rising from the ashes of a fucked up past - her "leaving las vegas" or whatever - but it looks like absolute sh1t

does it? judging from what? i haven't seen much on it but the script excerpts, which leaves me extremely intrigued, to say the least.

i didn't like the look of it, but some people are saying it's actually good, in a boogie nights way

i guess it depends on the director etc

well that's all i've seen too, but it just seems like exploitative garbage - who knows though. i should be more open-minded i guess!

is it completed? i think that kind of thing can be a lot more than exploitative garbage, if done right, obv.

Super-exploitative garbage

A meta film exploiting a struggling young actress cast in a role about an exploited porn actress (Except I'm pretty sure LiLo's actually exploiting the production as much as it is the other way 'round.)

is automatically garbage?

is it completed?

it hasn't even started filming. but the script is floating around online.

is automatically garbage?

By no means

yeah i just don't agree with the standpoint that a movie about sex and abuse, emotional or physical, starring an actress who makes sense for the part, is automatically drivel.

thinking about LL vs. the likes of emma stone and amy adams is that stone and adams are successful actresses, but not "superstars". hard to say what the difference is, exactly, but big celebrities tend to bring a story with them. sometimes the story is obvious (paris hilton is a beautiful but talentless heiress), sometimes less so (what was it that made julia roberts so effortlessly easy to relate to?), but it has to be something the public understands and finds compelling. LL's always had that, even before her film career took off. she was always news, always important relative to whatever else was going on around her.

which makes me think that this isn't really a "squandered talent" story. it's a "bad celebrity" story. question wasn't whether or not lindsey'd be a star (she was and is), but what kind of star she'd be. turns out that she's the cautionary type. and that works, too.

anyone read the inferno script? how is it?

Is Lindsay Lohan ‘too alt’ 4 society?

xp, some excerpts: http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-news/lindsay-lohan-jail-linda-lovelace-inferno-script-leaked-lilo-can-do-lines-cell47544

also good post contederizer -- i think some people find that she doesn't bring as much of that compelling side to the screen as she should

The actress that used to get mentioned a lot as a potential analogue for LiLo was Ann-Margret.

Maybe that was looks-wise more than career-wise, but it seemed like people thought she could fill that niche for the 21st C.

uhhh red hair derp derp

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/features/magstories/050509/llohan.jpg

she definitely LOOKS like ann margaret. tho ann margaret is like, one of a kind. i mean damn.

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/100/850/665/Ml8vkpznTeSbm4d.jpg

Lindsay needs an Allan Carr in her life.

She had one, it didn't work...

but im willing to believe that lohans trainwreck has made her seem in retrospect like a bigger (potential) star than she actually was

― max, Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:00 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

totally otm, but i also think the elastic band is gonna snap and throw her up higher than she was

next time she makes an OK movie it'll get more overrated than Britney stans hyped up Blackout

Lohan could definitely revive her carreer

Well, sure, but come on, what are the odds? She's surrounded by the wrong people (and that includes her crazy family). So who's going to lead her on the right path? I mean, shit, for the last half decade ALL she's known for is her partying, drugs, crazy antics, SCRAM bracelet,... Sure Downey Jr revived his career, but as said above, he still acted (and pretty good at that).

Blackout roxxx, u r all gay.

Well, he would know, I guess.

Lohan could definitely revive her carreer

Writing 'fcuk you' on your fingernail and oh so casually brandishing it in Court, probably isn't the way to do this - she might still be held in contempt for that.