Can someone explain Ayn Rand to me?!

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haha. i think ruddy describes objectivists as being crazier than scientologists. anyway, the actual link to listen is on this page. on the plus side, he says ayn was pretty sexy.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz Vision is a rand fan? that explains a lot

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Whenever I read Garu G's posts I like to picture Ayn Rand.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Seen on a 'staff recommendations' shelf in a local Waterstone's: Atlas Shrugged (or was it The Fountainhead), with the hand-written card declaring that "it is hard to come up with rational arguments against her philosophy".

ledge, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Q: Does pompous certainty disbar you from being a philosopher or does it make you a particular kind of philosopher?

Have Your Sega (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I bet there is a Dinosaur Comics about that!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa you are whistling for Vision (or whatevs his name is) to come rail hotly & obfusticate meaning.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, November 10, 2008 10:42 PM (30 minutes ago)

Haha! First thing I thought of!

I know, right?, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

It is great when he makes fun of your user name. Great!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

No, no it really isn't.

I know, right?, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean "enormously silly and childish."

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

thankyou

Vision (I know, right?), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

That is usually what I mean when I say something is "great," which comes from a childhood of not being allowed to use "bad words."

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

That's a great word. ; )

I know, right?, Monday, 10 November 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, the mot juste.

Have Your Sega (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 November 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

qpl, Saturday, 7 March 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

She looks like Greenspan with a wig.

Goth As A Moth (Bimble), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, she DOES have a sense of humor (not really exhibited in her books unfortunately) -- and lol @ how she loves "charlie's angels" and how much she sounds like Alan Alda or David Van Driessen re how "real men" should not suppress their feelings.

LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Who cares if Atlas shrugs now? He's already dropped the planet.

M.V., Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Can you say "conservative cunts" boys and girls? I knew you could!

Goth As A Moth (Bimble), Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Ayn Rand's zombie presence makes perfect sense. Indeed, her lit cred, thoroughly middlebrow and thus utterly American, lends her capitalist fantasies some theoretical weight. Rand fancied herself as high-minded, an intellectual counterbalance to Karl Marx. In truth, Rand was closer to Walt Disney, minus the Mouse King's showbiz flair. Each used cartoons to convey their message. Both were dedicated anti-communists, hostile to organized labor, friendly to the post-war Red Scare. Only Rand felt that the U.S. government wasn't going deep enough in uprooting commies, primarily those in Hollywood, hypnotizing Middle America with phony smiles and pretty songs while undermining free enterprise and its besieged supporters....

Heller also note(s) that Rand considered the dollar sign "a better symbol than the cross, because it didn't require the sacrifice of anybody." I trust that Heller doesn't share this ahistorical view. Not only have the cross and dollar enjoyed a lucrative, long-running alliance, the dollar requires massive sacrifice across the planet. Poverty, starvation, environmental damage and genocidal violence are some of the dollar's greatest hits. Use any calculator you like to tally the body count under state socialism, and it'll explode when computing the ongoing ravages of global capitalism.

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2009/11/atlas-insolvent.html

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Indeed, her lit cred

what??????????????????? she has no lit cred.

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

w/ people who buy books, and biographers, apparently

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

shooting fish in a barrel

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

thoroughly middlebrow and thus utterly American,

stfu

iatee, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

xp It would be a better world if that fact was as obvious to everyone as it is to us.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I enjoyed the piece in slate from a couple days ago: http://www.facebook.com/fluxion23?ref=profile

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

um

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/id/2233966

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ah

TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

She looks like Greenspan with a wig.

― Goth As A Moth (Bimble)

Perfect.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

comparing ayn rand to walt disney is an obscene insult to disney.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the comparison in the Slate story much better -- to L. Ron Hubbard.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Slate's latest batch of philosophy essays have been...highly variable, like this ludicrous Hannah Arendt piece

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

alfred that link just goes to a big list of ron rosenbaum articles for me

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoops: http://www.slate.com/id/2234010/

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Glad I'm not the only one. :)

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

The banality of Ron Rosenbaum

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

You're right, that article is horrible.

Drag Me to Hull (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"Internalizing" lol

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

The banality of Latinates.

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

atlas shrugged was boring

plaks (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

also kindof offensive

plaks (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"lit cred" = high schoolers read Anthem and so think Ayn Rand is Serious Literature.

But no hope for norwegian posters, sorry. (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the arendt piece is one of the worst things i've ever read on slate. incredibly ignorant and hysterical. has rosenbaum always been an idiot?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

The tone most offends me -- the smug assurance with which he thinks we'll agree that the banality of evil is a hackneyed phrase.

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

especially because his own idea of what evil actually is (bad people apparently ALWAYS know what they're doing, and revel in the fact of their evilness) is so laughable.

i get the sense that most of the people who criticize arendt's calling eichmann "banal" haven't even read that book. she hardly lets him off the hook.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

And she endorses the death penalty for him!

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link


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