Should I buy an Apple laptop?

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gah so tempted to upgrade after a night of working with RAW files that made my system creak (i have a mbp c2d 2.33ghz with only 2gbs of ram).

might just add another gig of ram for $50 and see if that gives me some more life on this 3-year-old baby. thoughts?

young werther's originals (s1ocki), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I just successfully transformed my PC into a Hackintosh. On torrents there are various releases (Kalyway, iPC, SnowLeo, etc) that are basically ISOs of patched OSX install DVDs. But it takes a LOT of work to make everything work right. I was hacking away for a solid 4 or 5 days before everything was nice and ready. Now I have OSX 10.5.6 and complete working sound, video, and internet. My usb connections all work, and even the latest release of Final Cut Studio!

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Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a Dell XPS 420 desktop btw.

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

420

young werther's originals (s1ocki), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

s1ock check your pageins/pageouts in activity monitor. if your number of pageouts is similar to your number of pageins or is a high number, that means you would benefit from adding more RAM. try checking after an editing session with RAWs.

SSDs are good for instant loading of apps & for doing work with files located on the SSD itself, but if you're going to be using in conjunction w/ a regular hard drive, there won't really be a speed increase if all the data files are located on the regular hard drive.

like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, the biggest different a normal user notices with SSDs are app launching speed, which becomes essentially instant.

unless you are a billionaire you won't be storing video or whatever on them, and they don't help with processor-intensive tasks like video, so they're not so useful for that. they're not useful for the science simulation stuff i do either.

i gather putting your photoshop swapfile on one is a good for PS performance.

caek, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I ended up getting the stock 5400rpm drive on my MBP. Instead of paying Apple's hefty drive upgrade prices, I figured I'll swap in a larger 7200rpm drive when prices drop. Pretty sure hard drive swapping doesn't mess with AppleCare.

turtles all the way down (mh), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah they mention it in the manual iirc

like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Let me put it this way -- right now I have a 120GB drive which is almost full (5 GB free) and my machine is very laggy. Let's say I want to choose between having a small SSD which is almost full and a big conventional drive which is much less full. Which will be less annoying?

(xp to mh: yeah, thinking along the same lines -- maybe swap in an ssd when the big ones get cheaper?)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

go with the conventional drive - a 120GB SSD would be 3-4x the cost of a 500GB drive (I use a western digital blue label scorpio)

another option is to try one of the new Seagate momentus hybrids...it has a SSD section on the drive that stores all your most-used files.

like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i was about to buy a new macbook pro (15", 2.4GHz i5) to replace my slightly-falling-apart (literally! in that it's missing screws) powerpc powerbook-- and then my internet connection died just as i was pressing the 'buy' button. and now i am attacked by waves of superstitious fear.

oligopoly golightly (c sharp major), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

15" mbp is a champ. i literally lolled the first time i saw the battery time remaining.

anyway, anyone tried this? http://onethingwell.org/post/977670277/go-ssd

caek, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't used mine much yet (bought it in anticipation of a need that hasn't quite arrived yet) but it seems like the battery time goes quick when it stays on the Nvidia graphics.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

hello! i think i should buy a new apple laptop.

i have a macbook, about 6 years old now, i bought it for about £650 iirc. it's not dead yet but it's definitely overly creaky now. the model i have doesn't seem to be on sale any more and all the new ones are confusing me. also someone told me a while ago i should hold out because apple are bringing out a new model? what is the status with this?

i just want a basic laptop that's like the one i have now but not creaky for around the same price :(

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

you should definitely buy a new laptop

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

the new ones just got released last week.

they don't make laptops for 650 quid. they never have iirc.

the cheapest current model is the 11" macbook air for 849. that's probably about 700 with a student discount, which you can get if you have a pulse. that's fine for your purposes. a+ recommended.

if you need a disc drive for cds/dvds (lol old) then you'll need to buy an old model second hand or get an external drive. they don't sell them any more.

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

hang on what laptops don't have cd drives any more? you can't play dvds on them?

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

but...

I AM CONFUSED

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

i need to rip CDs to the hard drive all the time! and also i want to watch DVDs on the laptop!

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

apple don't make laptops with cd/dvd drives since last week.

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:27 (twelve years ago) link

no one except music journalists and my dad use them any more. you can buy an external one like an external hard drive for < 100£.

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know what to do now

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

buy an 11" MBA and one of these http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD564ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw&s=topSellers

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

so is it just the new models that don't have CD drives? aargh i should have done this the other week

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

WHY don't they have CD drives? I JUST WANT A LAPTOP THAT IS THE SAME AS THE ONE I HAVE

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

you can still get the old models refurbished though http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/mac they are cheaper and have optical drives. they are repaired ones, but they come with some sort of guarantee

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

e.g. this would suit you fine http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FD313B/A

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

also what do people watch if not DVDs these days? i knew CDs were obsolete but i didn't think DVDs were?

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

people download movies from the internet

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

the cheapest current model is the 11" macbook air for 849.

is this one of the new ones that just got released last week?

i find everything about this so stressful

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

people download movies from the internet

i thought that was just illegal torrents though? i tried to work out how to do torrents once and EVERYTHING CRASHED and i've been too frightened to try again since

also there's nowhere enough room on laptops for more than a few films?

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

yes, all the laptops are new ones that got released last week

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

you can rent/buy movies using itunes.

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

a film takes up the same amount of space as 10 albums

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

and if you rent it you delete it anyway

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

my current laptop won't even let me watch youtube without skipping or freezing

ok these new models, in what ways are they better than the old ones? like is there something to actually make up for lacking a function i need to use regularly?

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

they are not creaky

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

no i mean the macbooks that were available two weeks ago that have been taken off the market

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

they weigh less because they got rid of something most people don't use

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

they didn't exactly weigh a ton to start with. what else have they made better. if there's nothing else i may as well get a refurbished one.

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

they are a bit faster, but tbh the refurbs will be so much faster than your 6 yr old one the difference between the new ones and the two week old ones will be marginal to you

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

i would get a refurb

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

if i were you i mean

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

lex, having read many of your angry posts about your current creaky model, you will be absolutely fine with last year's model. also, get applecare.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

my mbp is two years old and it's still superb

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link

and are refurbished ones actually...likely to last long? given that they are 2nd hand/repaired/whatever? that makes me a bit uncomfortable.

ugh so if i hadn't dithered and had just done this two weeks ago i could've got a new model that actually had what i want? ugh

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link

make sure you look at http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/refurbfaq_popup

also no education discount on refurbs

and yes, get applecare

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

they are fine. you are guaranteed for 12 months + you are sensible so you get applecare for any apple laptop refurb or not, which extends cover for 2 more years.

caek, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not a student so don't get discount anyway (but i save a similar amount cuz i get to claim tax back)

old refurb vs new model + external CD drive aargh. also aware that old models can become obsolete in annoying ways when it comes to software programs and stuff, like i haven't been able to use google chrome on my current one

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:49 (twelve years ago) link


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