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felicity - i am trying to help someone file a return for 2006. i'm no accountant but i at least understand a little bit about it. they have none of their tax forms from previous years and 2007 was the first year they filed. they did receive a letter saying that they needed to file for 2006. what is the next step?

bell_labs, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Postmarked by midnight is fine. Yeah I should probably get back to work paying my mortgage with money from spoiled rich people who are crying about being indicted for tax fraud.

xp I would hire a tax lawyer.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I e-filed this year for the first time for the sole reason that I have my W2s sent to me online but I don't have a printer. Thought about going to the library, but the $8 fee was worth it to stay at home in my PJs and not have to whip out a calculator.

jaymc, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

e-Filing is indeed very pleasant. I have this vague notion that I shouldn't e-file any more, since somehow owning a house makes it financially inadvisable not to have an accountant, but maybe I'm wrong.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

was janet reno a good boss? he seemed like a dick

-- akm, Monday, April 14, 2008 10:48 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

She was really tall. Reno's big thing was using the Internet to catch catch child pr0nographers and sex offenders.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

like, even in the workplace?

Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

She was really tall

otm!

gabbneb, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it may have been a political p.r. maneuver to deflect attention from the criticism of the disproportionately harsh mandatory sentencing guidelines for drug crimes.

Civil forfeitures are fun.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I still love the idea that my inability to suffer fools gladly comes in "episodes"

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't wait for the May sweeps.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 14 April 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

From my delinquencies and fits of avoidance, I learned that if you have a refund coming to you, it is OK not to file (for a certain number of years?), but it is NOT OK if you owe money. I skipped filing for 2 years at one point and then on the 3rd year I filed, got refunds for each year from federal as well as state, received a very lovely chunk of change which I then used to purchase a car and some pretty baubles.

Jesse, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

xp I would hire a tax lawyer.

-- felicity, Monday, April 14, 2008 5:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

heh ok zing i guess but i thought you were giving out free advice today

i will do my own research, this person cannot afford a "lawyer"

bell_labs, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

No because people were rude and I actually do need to work for my paying clients.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

KOOL-AID MAN knows what's up

banriquit, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah ask that dude. He'll be cool.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i know someone who had refunds due to him but for assorted laziness reasons didn't file for over five years. he finally did and got a big chunk of money back.

akm, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

listen i still haven't filed my '06 taxes and i'm wondering if i'm SOL with the DOJ and the IRS, or maybe if i can get an extension

omar little, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

vaguely hilarious in the context of your chosen logon

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I am very butthurt! From now on I will only dispense edgy, ironic, purportedly, humorous, awful, house, legal, advice, if any.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i owe the feds some scrill but fortunately not much, i was worried it might be more for some reason.

omar little, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is just making me butthurt at myself for not doing my undergrad in accounting or something

bell_labs, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

ehhh shit i kept meaning to make planz to have them done, but kept sleeping on it, and now i'll have to whip thru them online. my major expense will be not having anything to itemize against a pile of undeducted freelance income. you pay to be lazy.

gff, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

owning a house makes it financially inadvisable not to have an accountant

Dude the mortgage deduction requires 1) looking at the form your mortgage lender sent you and 2) transfering the amount in box 2 into the line something or other on your Schedule C. No accountant required. I did our federal and state in under an hour and had both mortgage and student loan interests to deduct. Piece o' cake. So just file dude.

quincie, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I think what I'll do is just estimate what's on the forms I don't have, file with that, then file an amended return when they turn up, which ought not be too long.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

you should just flee the country

akm, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't pander to my wife OK???

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

he can't flee the country dude, he OWNS PROPERTY.

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

You can always flee for 2 weeks or so.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

don't talk about his wife that way xpost

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

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Mr. Que, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

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sunny successor, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Resource for meme early adopters

gabbneb, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I filed in January and have already spent my tax return. :)

homosexual II, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

argh argh argh fuck why didn't i read form 970 before fucking w/ "tuition expenses" and "education credits"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

here's a q for any currently-enrolled independent full-time students out there

if you're getting a scholarship / fellowship / grant (not a loan), and the amount is less than the "qualified expense" on the 1098-T, there's no point in even fucking around w/ education credits or tuition expenses because it's essentially saying that 100% of that money went into the qualified expense so it doesn't even need to be reported as wages? (looking at worksheet 1-1 in form 970)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

that was my impression when I was on the tuition reimbursement program at my last company, yes. none of my tuition reimbursement payments ever even showed up on my W2.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the 1098-T is the one you get from your school telling you how much you paid them, right?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah it tells you how much they gave you in the form of "free money" non-teaching fellowships and how much your "qualified expense" was (ie tuition + processing fees)

i guess the fact that i never received w-2 for this money should have tipped me off but i get really paranoid w/ tax forms and just *assume* that you have to report everything. and then in the 1040 instructions there's a bit about "taxable fellowship funds not reported on a w-2", which i dutifully entered, and then freaked out because the maximum deduction for education is like $4000, so i owed like $500 tax, so i tried to claim education credit, which doesn't work if you're actually doing the education at the same time, but then i finally looked at 970 worksheet 1-1 and realized it's not actually taxable ... fuck, i'm stupid ...

anyway, taxes done A++ would file again

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't even know why i bothered w/ 1040 this year because i don't have kids, mortgage, interest, dividends, itemized deductions (except the $250 teacher supplies wheeee!) or anything else that would make it worthwhile ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

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gr8080, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Everyone gets that code too.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

You May Now File Your Form N-13 On-Line!!!
https://dotax.ehawaii.gov/efile/images/HICefile.gif

gr8080, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:25 (sixteen years ago) link

We ran the numbers, and it looks like your income was too high to get the tax rebate for 2008.

Ironically enough, I just learned that I owe $1000 for (my wife) not filing on time last year.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

CA income categories include:

Ottoman Turkish Empire Settlement Payments

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha.

felicity, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

So the key question is whether it's worth filing an amended return. I found all the real tax documents so I didn't have to guess any numbers, but I skipped some deductions I could probably have gotten, like student loan interest-related deductions (not much, since I'm almost paid off).

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

this year i owed federal for the first time ever :/
still received a small state refund as usual

sleep, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Farewell 1st quarterly estimated self-employment tax installment, it was nice having you in the bank for a day or two ;_;

Jaq, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link

CA income categories include:

Ottoman Turkish Empire Settlement Payments

-- libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:08 (1 hour ago)

iirc, the settlement payments are for a lawsuit won by the descendants of Armenians who fled from Turkey to the US to escape the genocide of 1915

Ol Bertie Dastard, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

(BTW I was laughing at douchecrypt's tax penalty, not the Armenians.)

felicity, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link


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