US POLITICS: "I figured clueless was better than argumentative."

hmm. I saw that months ago, so let me amend that to "some of it was on point."

I see. That was helpful, thanks.

(I was actually kind of under the impression that there was some positive consensus around FDR. Not entirely sure why now.)

he was a nazi who fought nazis. strange, i know

This terrible book got a lot of traction in 2008 before the election. She's tickled by the discovery that most of FDR's answers for ending the Depression failed! It's like she hasn't written a new book in fifty years.

xp
I think there used to be; ten years ago I think you'd be fringey to go after him.

not only a Nazi but he appeased Stalin!

amity shlaes is a nutcase

*written = read

Great critique.

i have also read somewhere that shlaes has merely an undergrad degree in english. i like to think i understand econ to some degree, but come on

her name looks like it lost several vowels and consonants.

Shlaes graduated from Yale University magna cum laude[1] with a bachelor’s degree in English in 1982.[2]

Shlaes writes a syndicated column for Bloomberg News.[3] She is a senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations. Her many appearances on television and radio include commentary on public radio for Marketplace.

She wrote columns for the Financial Times for five years, until September, 2005, for which she won the International Policy Network's Bastiat Prize for Journalism in 2002.[4] Earlier, she worked at the Wall Street Journal, where she was a member of the editorial board. She has written for The New Yorker, The American Spectator, Commentary Magazine, Foreign Affairs, Forbes, National Review, and The New Republic, among others. Her obituary of Milton Friedman appeared in The New York Sun.[5]

She was awarded the 2007 Deadline Club award for Opinion writing,[6] and the Newswomen's Club of New York's Front Page Award for her Bloomberg columns.[7]

Miss Shlaes teaches an MBA course titled the Economics of the Great Depression at NYU/Stern School of Business.[8] She is the 2009 winner of the Hayek Prize awarded by the Manhattan Institute.

This is pretty famous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yoZHs6PsU

thanks for the FDR clips alfred

first one: 515 views, posted october 2009

Just curious - if a senator (or senators) wanted to sit on the other side of the aisle, could they do it? Why doesn't anyone ever try it? Wouldn't it be a nice symbolic bipartisan gesture?

I should run for senate…"vote z s, he'll literally sit on the other side of the aisle"

interesting, but this is not a great idea in practice imo

One Progressive's Nat'l Scheme To Burn Confederate Flags At Tea Party Rallies

AAAARGH I did post that for the amusing URL earlier and nobody bit.

ACLU intervening in the Awlaki case we were discussing earlier: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/03/awlaki

― elephant rob, Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:57 PM (5 hours ago)

aclu are heroes. on point article from greenwald too

IMPORTANT

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2010/08/bristol_levi_breakup.html?hpid=artslot

Someone lock Sullivan back in his Levi-proof soundbooth!

man FDR bringin the "I welcome their hatred"

fucking awesome

love how Levi's knocked up some other bimbo

worked so well the first time!

xpost love the excitement in FDR's voice; he really gets off on the hate.

burning confederate flags seems like a terrible idea

I mean as a political statement at a tea party rally. not in general.

I wonder if Levi's ever worn a condom in his life.

I wonder if Levi's ever been in a gay chatroom and talked to Sullivan in his life.

Maybe Trig is Sullivan's baby.

levi's life decisions might actually affect the future of america

Maybe Trig is Sullivan's baby.

Not unless there's a miracle.

Fuckin' Palins -- how does Sully work?

re: Levi & Palin's - all i can think about is the first 3 minutes of Idiocracy

dumbass clinton/bush advisor lady just on blitzer: "no it's okay, there's a whole system of review and checks & balances when the gov't decides someone is a threat to the country".

nevermind that there's no due process

clinton/bush advisor?

clinton's bush advisor?

xp haha whatever she was, idk she was like a national security person i think

Did Bill Clinton need a bush advisor? SRSLY NOW.

Rad for the ACLU. Hope they make it in time.

I cannot believe that article about Levi J expects me to buy "Rex Butler" as the name of an actual human being.

His MySpace page. Classy for a lawyer, I know: http://www.myspace.com/rexbquelaw

wow!

Love many, trust few. Always paddle your own canoe.

I also enjoyed:

Mood: satisfied ;)

Roffle.

damn, Ned, serious LOLs

that brought me lols when I needed lols, much appreciated

today's dose of who the fuck ARE these people??:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/co-gov-goper-maes-hickenloopers-bike-love-is-a-un-plot.php

i read about shit like the flouridation panic in the 50s and i can hardly believe it was real. i don't have any less trouble getting my head around this tbh

"Bike agenda spins cities toward U.N. control, Maes warns"

http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_15673894

you want to say, very interesting, can i subscribe to your newsletter? but the guy probably does have a newsletter.

O_O

i spent some time reading about the "redemption movement" yesterday after reading that inglis article

Fuck the heart, seriously.

btw u guys are missin a helluva ballgame

they'll be voting from the heart this time; it's our turn to be pragmatic.

This means nothing. "The heart"? It's more like -- no, EXACTLY like -- the "gut" that Colbert talks about. Call me elitist, but Tea Partiers don't understand a thing about what they're voting for.

hm. 3 -- 0 giants in 7th.

Morbs otm again. There's little point in this particular conversation.

For those of you not voting for Democrats, do you live in states with ballot measures? and are you voting for them? Just curious. Ballot measures and candidates have always seemed like totally separate things to me, yet they are conflated together as "voting".

e.g. the marijuana initiatives in California and Oregon.

I've got eight amendments to our state constitution on which we're voting.

My district is a safe socially liberal Republican seat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFSIcI0wmGw

for the record

For the record, Mo. went for McCain.

Tried to open all messages to read stuff from two hours ago and it practically crashed my browser (and, yes, I'm on a lame internet connection)

NEW THREAD, PLEASE

US POLITICS election/post-election edition: your country will improve immediately.