The Mormons

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When I first started listening to the radio there, all the ads for bars ended with "a private club for members," as did all the newspaper ads. "What a pompous fucking town," I thought. BEFORE I KNEW THE SHOCKING TRUTH.

Abbott, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i know, but it's still shocking! i went with about ten other people, and i was the only one who needed a membership card. or maybe because everybody else was at least 20 years older and it was an id card to verify my age. whatever it was, the guy made it with a post-it note and a ballpoint pen.

elan, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

lol xp

elan, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

beautiful land, though. too bad SLC is so ugly unless you look up.

elan, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:23 (sixteen years ago) link

really, they are a punkass cult that has bent over for the US government several times and radically changed their core beliefs through incredibly convenient "revelations". I don't care how nice some of them are, on some level they are all jerks.

How are they different from any other religious fundies in this sense though? Except that their religion was founded a bit later than most others.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, the private club thing is pretty annoying and is sort of arbitrarily enforced. technically, the doorman/bartenders/club employees can 'sponsor' anyone they want and get them in the club w/o making them pay for a year-long membership - but it varies by bar and doorman.

strgn is OTM about SLC being the best place to live here. as for mormons, they can be both very generous/helpful and also very exclusive. i grew up mormon and most of my friends growing up were not mormon, but i also knew kids who weren't allowed to play w/ 'non-members'. which is lame, but there are paranoid people of all types.

6335, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

as a kid, I was all buddy-buddy with several other mormon kids cuz we were all outcasts/misfits from the mainstream culture. It wasn't until midway through high school (and a visit to the mormon tabernacle/SLC) that I was all like "lolz mormon underwear" etc

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

(should be "as a JEWISH kid")

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

magical jewish underwear?

remy bean, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

e.g. boxer-briefs?

remy bean, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear 6335, are you still Mormon? I grew up in it and no longer am in it. My parents wouldn't let me hang out with non-Mormons or fat Mormons. !!!

Abbott, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i stopped attending about 11-12 years ago, but technically, yeah! i never had my name removed from the records. why the ban on fat mormons?

6335, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

when I was a kid all the adult mormon adult women I knew were fat moms with short hair. I thought it was just how they were.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.matchflick.com/flickimages/13278.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i was going to make a list of 'bad mormon' movies i never saw, but i could only remember two and elvis telecom got the second (first was ORGAZMO of course)

strgn, Thursday, 6 December 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

no first is Napoleon Dynamite

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

(well its the number 1 bad mormon movie on my list anyway)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/igotabeefpastry/snakemang.gif

Mormons invented TROGDOR THE BURNINATOR!

http://www.gamesoc.org/images/trogdor.gif

onimo, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

my father-in-law is mormon and he rocks.

sunny successor, Thursday, 6 December 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

is he a jackrabbit mormon?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 December 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

The man brags about the fact that coffee has never touched his lips.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Beefeater Gin has, though.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

A Mormon speaks!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

fwiw napoleon dynamite is pretty much the opposite of a bad mormon movie.

strgn, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder what gordon b. and mitt romney fantasize about over casserole

strgn, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

celestial virgins of kolob

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I see no problem with that answer

El Tomboto, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Dude he said something like "I am not a Mormon running for president, I'm a man running for president who was born a Mormon."

OOOOOOoooo that's gonna lose points with the Mormons! I mean, I could say that! Korihor could say that! That kinda distancing is crepey somehow, god, bcz if there's anything I know abt Mormons is if you don't wear your membership on your sleeve they will get SHIFTY-EYED SUSPICIOUS of that member.

Abbott, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe it's been mentioned but if it hasn't, have a read at this and watch the video http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

A British (Catholic) academic friend recently blogged:

Mormonism is (apart from the anti-Gay bit) a really NICE religion. It encourages group solidarity; it does NOT condemn all non-Mormons to hell (just a less nice heaven); Mormon architecture is on the edge of the camp and inspiration, but it is pretty great over all. Despite all this, I think Joseph Smith was a fraud from upstate New York. Why don't I think this about all founders of religions?

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Mormonism is (apart from the anti-Gay bit) a really NICE religion. It encourages group solidarity; it does NOT condemn all non-Mormons to hell (just a less nice heaven);

See though that would be worse for me. Being teased with something "good" when I could have achieved something "great" messes with my competitive nature.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Reviving because the typical cult-standoff story has mushroomed into a, well, HFS story

More than 400 children, mostly girls in pioneer dresses, were swept into state custody from a polygamist sect in what authorities described Monday as the largest child-welfare operation in Texas history.

The dayslong raid on the sprawling compound built by now-jailed polygamist leader Warren Jeffs was sparked by a 16-year-old girl's call to authorities that she was being abused and that girls as young as 14 and 15 were being forced into marriages with much older men.

Dressed in home-sewn, ankle-length dresses with their hair pinned up in braids, some 133 women left the Yearning for Zion Ranch of their own volition along with the children.

State troopers were holding an unknown number of men in the compound until investigators finished executing a house-to-house search of the 1,700-acre property, which includes a medical facility, numerous large housing units and an 80-foot white limestone temple that rises discordantly out of the brown scrub.

"In my opinion, this is the largest endeavor we've ever been involved in in the state of Texas," said Children's Protective Services spokesman Marleigh Meisner, who said she was also involved in the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco.

The members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints spent their days raising numerous children, tilling small gardens and doing chores. But at least one former resident says life was not some idyllic replica of 19th-century life.

"Once you go into the compound, you don't ever leave it," said Carolyn Jessop, one of the wives of the alleged leader of the Eldorado complex. Jessop left with her eight children before the sect moved to Texas.
Jessop said the community emphasized self-sufficiency because they believed the apocalypse was near.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

BY-PRODUCTS OF MORMON CULTURE

latebloomer, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://m1.2mdn.net/1563414/10019_40181_300x250.gif

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i have found a planet full of Mormon babez

Mr. Que, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I had questions no one would answer SAD FACE

kate78, Monday, 1 December 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Gov't should tax these fuckers. And the Scientologists.

thirdalternative, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Holy wow.

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, I love freeze dried fruit so much. I don't think I'd want to survive the apocalypse on four different flavors of TVP.

This whole thing is weird because they have Mormon canneries where you can buy this stuff or go put your own cheap rice and dried fruit in cans.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, this actually DOES look like a bowl of soil.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/ProductLarge/426464LL_v1.jpg

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

More useful for cost comparison: here are the prices to buy stuff from the Mormon church: http://providentliving.org/content/display/0,11666,8133-1-4352-1,00.html

I just get the feeling this is cheaper than what Costco's offering. OTOH they don't have freeze dried fruit. How can you pretend you're ruining everyone's Strawberry Special K by stealing all the freeze dried strawberries, if you just get stuff from this order form?

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Thrive, more like Hive, amirite?

kenan, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Jeffs = life in prison

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17036046

The Mormon Church has apologised for posthumously baptising the parents of Nazi-hunter Simon Wiesenthal.

Asher and Rosa Rapp Wiesenthal were baptised in proxy ceremonies by church members in the US states of Arizona and Utah in January, records show.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spokesman Michael Purdy said the Church' s leaders "sincerely regret" the actions of "an individual member".

The Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center denounced the news.

"We are outraged that such insensitive actions continue in the Mormon temples," said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, a spokesman at the centre.

The Mormon religion allows baptism after death, and believes the departed soul can then accept or reject the baptismal rites.

An agreement in 1995 was supposed to ban the practice of baptising by proxy Holocaust victims, after it was discovered the names of hundreds of thousands of those who died had been entered into Mormon records.

Simon Wiesenthal's parents are long since deceased, with his father dying in World War I and his mother perishing in the Holocaust.

Wiesenthal himself died in 2005 after surviving the Holocaust and dedicating his life to documenting Nazi crimes and hunting down perpetrators.
'Serious breach'

Mr Purdy told the Associated Press news agency that the church considered the act "a serious breach of our protocol".

According to Mr Purdy, the names of the Wiesenthal family were simply entered into a genealogical database by one person.

"We have suspended indefinitely this person's ability to access our genealogy records," he said.

The name of that individual or the individuals who performed the rite were not released.

Evidence that Wiesenthal's parents had been baptised was found by Helen Radkey, a researcher and former Mormon, AP reported.

She regularly checks the Church' s database, and also recently found the names of Nobel laureate and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel and several family members on the Mormon list.

"None of the three names were submitted for baptism and they would not have been under the Church' s guidelines and procedures," said Mr Purdy, the Mormon Church spokesman said.

Rabbi Cooper said any further discussion of the problem was useless.

"The only way such insensitive practices would finally stop is if church leaders finally decided to change their practices and policies on posthumous baptisms, a move which this latest outrage proves that they are unwilling to do," he said.

The Catholic Church has also objected to posthumous baptisms of its members.

I had no idea they did this. It's seriously fucked up.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

Baptisms for the dead, or specifically for Holocaust victims?

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

this is a very well-known practice of the church fwiw, people have been complaining about it for decades

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdiZOsHOG6o

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link


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