NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011

OTM about Andy Gray's Panopticon

Not telling me Mandy isn't trying to look like Midge Ure there

There's also a bit of 80s Kevin Webster going on with Barton. He is just everybloke 80s moustachio man.

Why not talk about Paul Scholes?

gray's head is a giant edifice.

x-post cos it's a fucking broken record for the last 2/3 seasons

only diff now is he actually has played well, rather than the one decent game in 10.

ha, "a touch of dad's army about it" says the interviewer about the 3rd goal.

Scholes was absurdly good. It was an unusually good performance, and I think it deserves all the praise. Especially in light of England being abject.

still a fucking thug though.

minority report a bit, but also looks like andy gray's tanning salon

"tik a bed son, tik a bed"

Our Hannah has got a little crush on Darren Fletcher.

he's a nice kid iirc from summer hols down our way. she could take home worse.

ohh, they're moving to the giant screen...

This meme about Scholes might've come back for the world cup if Capello had made the call, not Bandini - I'm supposed to think Capello's the bad guy, right?

super lols at Richard Keys acting the clueless fool.

still a fucking thug though.

― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 16 August 2010 22:08 (2 minutes ago)

this is the thing about Liverpool fans - you so nearly get me onside, then you start pointing The Finger

he's a nice kid iirc from summer hols down our way. she could take home worse.

Yeah but Hannah's 8.

COME ON LJ SCHOLES' TACKLES HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION DEDICATED TO THEM

it's the "shucks, Scholesy was a little late there bless him" that irks me more than anything.

i'll defend every single thing about paul scholes except his tacking, the guy's a thug off the ball. with chris on this one

would not describe him as a malicious tackler, more a clumsy one

now carragher? there's a thug

:D

if it gets me back onside and makes you feel any better, then i'm more than happy to acknowledge carra's thug-like tendencies ;)

After the first 10 years of your career clumsy sort of wears off as an excuse.

we live in a world where Kevin Muscat is not in jail, of course, so it's all relative

also, did richard keys really just describe middlesbrough goalkeeper brad jones, who wouldn't be anywhere near our 1st team squad if it weren't for the homegrown rule, as a "big signing", or has Messi flown in on the quiet?

I like to think of Muscat sat in some small town jail in Wagga Wagga or somewhere like that.

all knocking brick-sized chunks out of the wall with the soles of his bare feet

Harry Kewell on a horse throwing a stick of dynamite thru the bars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwhI1rjsWdg

Stay classy, dude :)

Dude he doesn't make contact!

Oh wait I was looking at the wrong arm.

Anyway he never hit him that hard.

I had blanked Kevin Muscat's time in Scotland from my memory. What with this and bad moustaches, I'm absolutely not going to sleep tonight.

god i could just wish horrible death on muscat and his ilk.

Jermaine Jenas to Juventus?!

it's the "shucks, Scholesy was a little late there bless him" that irks me more than anything.

― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, August 16, 2010 2:15 PM

So (United-Liverpool rivalries aside) the usual pundits-being-cliché-ridden-imbeciles leads you to label one of the best players England has ever produced "a fucking thug"? Do you actually believe that Scholes's admittedly bad tackling is malicious and intended to injure?

ancelotti's lost weight

xp i think he's a great player, but some of his tackles are atrocious. jeez, the "fucking thug" thing was an off the cuff remark about one area of his game that i think badly lets him down.

Ha ha, fair enough, just thought we had a RAWKite on ILE for a minute there. ;)

He's asthmatic

I don't understand why Alex Ferguson (supposedly) won't pay 15 million for 21 year-old Oezil but is said to be ok with spending the same amount of money on Meireles. It's probably all paper talk anyway.

ozil seems too good to be available for 15m. there must be more to the story

He's available for free next summer - clubs are probably caught between thinking '15m for Özil = bargain!' and thinking '15m for one year = rip-off'

i think he's a great player, but some of his tackles are atrocious. jeez, the "fucking thug" thing was an off the cuff remark about one area of his game that i think badly lets him down.

Plus, hey, I'll take the "areas of his game" that allegedly let him down if I can watch and appreciate the more significant areas of his game, like the 60-yard pinpoint passes, or the lofted perfectly weighted balls over the back line onto his teammates' toes, or the almost spooky way he continually makes space for himself in tight areas of the pitch! It's like saying, oh that Leonardo, he may well have painted the fucking Mona Lisa and The Virgin Of the Rocks but the fucking thug was never totally onboard with the powers that be, you know. I swear he had an attitude problem. Plus, he probably picked his nose...

Irrelevant in the big picture, I think. It's not like Scholes has ever significantly damaged (or just even minorly damaged) an opponent, so why dwell on that aspect of his game, unless you have some kind of agenda or just don't like quiet soft-spoken family men who are gingers?

(and are brilliant footballers)<----- meant to add.

Or dude could have just learnt how to tackle, you know

Brad Jones? Liverpool? £2.3million? Que?

Jones qualifies as a "home-grown" player under the new Premier League rules after joining the Teessiders from Australian amateur side Bayswater City.

But so do lots of other keepers. Who don't cost £2.3million. And aren't shit.

Jermaine Jenas to Juventus?!

makes a change form the inter rumours. i still think he has one season of greatness in him.

dunno where lostandfound is going with this. scholes has gone in too late, too hard, too often for it to matter whether he went in to hurt anyone 'on purpose'.

he's the best english player of his generation, of maybe two generations given his longevity, but y'know- in reference to his tackling, don't think it should be swept under the carpet on the way to his canonisation.

That reminds me of a question I was going to pose - if Gascoigne was the unchallenged king of English football in 1990/91, and if everyone accepts that Rooney's had the crown for a few years now, who was the best English player in between?