NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011

There are a ton of plausible all-round candidates - the ones mentioned plus Gerrard, Lampard, Platt, Seaman, Waddle for the period immediately post-Gazza, Sol even. They've all got some kind of blind spot. That said, I had cause to look at Shearer's stats for something I was doing at weekend - absolutely phenomenal.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:58 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Could make a case for Robbie Fowler? Want to say Matt le Tissier as well, tbh.

― ailsa, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:01 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Assuming we're talking about in the three lions shirt then.

Gerrard and Lampard never did it for England, despite being amongst the big stars of their time. Platt, Waddle, Seaman, Waddle eclipsed by Gazza then Shearer imo- being around for 92 did them no favours either. Sol was magnificent, but I dunno did he ever approach Shearer/Owen proportions even at his height in 98. Fowler- see lampard, gerrard but without their longevity in the league.

Le Tiss is the best footballer mentioned in this thread, rivalled only by Scholes, but not for England.

also fuck the taxman the welsh fa the courts and who the fuck ever else for continuing to let cardiff go on trading. load of bullshit.

ugh god i hate cardiff.

I wasn't considering solely internationally, mostly because I wasn't really paying much attention to England for large periods. There was a brief period where Robbie Fowler was the best English player in England (thought we were just filling in gaps between Gazza and Rooney), and I <3 Matt le Tissier, so yeah.

bellamy to cardiff is kinda classic

hope cheeky chappy shaun derry snaps him in two.

It is great in that he basically said ages ago that he didn't give a shit about the Prem any more and just wanted back home to Wales. I wish someone had given him a timetable for flights from Cardiff to Glasgow though :-(

xpost, ooh, someone doesn't like him!

haha no, i secretly quite like bellers same as everyone else. stick him in a cardiff shirt though and all bets are off.

"I am strangely drawn to Bellamy. He is awful. But he weirdly also tells the truth and seems sometimes very plausible in among all his terrible bust-ups. Now and then you wonder. Maybe it's football and not him."

^ sorry to rep barney ronay again but this, basically.

like maybe john arne riise DOES deserve a savage golf clubbing in the grand scheme of things, who knows yknow

I can get behind the oddly pro-Bellamy sentiment. Surely some bigger teams than Cardiff have missed a trick by not taking him on though? He'd have had the City Reject With Point To Prove thing going on and presumably he's taking a pay cut to go to Cardiff anyway (or are City paying his wages still?). Maybe that's why they haven't loaned him to anyone in the EPL.

Riise was also knocked unconscious by John Carew while on Norway duty. The club doctor or someone was quoted as saying "I don't want to repeat what Riise said but I have never seen Carew that angry in my life".

ooh norwegian gossip

can't see cardiff paying bellamy 90k a week so either city relented (but why?) and are paying some or he took a cut

Club doctor = "team doctor".

The Riise-Carew smackdown was a fair while ago, I was just pointing out that the ginger one has made more than one enemy in his career is all.

wait rodallega is available for 10m? are wigan MENTAL?

The celebrated bust-up between Carew, who plays professionally for Roma, and Riise, who plays for Liverpool, has made headlines all over Europe. Now it seems the circumstances of a quarrel that exploded into a brawl could have had even more serious consequences.

Riise reportedly regained consciousness quickly, but Carew's attack was so brutal that teammates were never in doubt that Carew would have to be penalized. He was suspended and banned from playing in Wednesday's friendly match against Portugal, which Norway ended up losing 1-0.

Others have claimed since the fight that Riise also should have been punished, since he provoked Carew by, among other things, spitting repeatedly on his shoes.

Riise has admitted that he also behaved badly. "I didn't say anything ugly, I didn't swear or do anything racist," he told newspaper Dagbladet, "but I went too far."

- ptuww!
- stop that!
- ptuww!
- grr!

that is classic 13 yr old stuff. no wonder he sounded sheepish.

carew all hopping from foot to foot with dainty frustration

oooeeewwwoooww you dirty whyiotta

Did the same thing happen prior to Bellamy deciding to escalate things by braining him with a golf club? I was never up on the details of that little spat.

"braining" would involve Riise having his brains in his legs (lol crap footballing metaphor would have that to be true an all). Apparently it was because Riise wouldn't join in at karaoke.

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

iirc bellamy hilariously also stewed on the whole thing for hours before suddenly deciding to burst into riise's room and hack away while he was asleep.

"try sleeping with a broken leg!", the alicia keys fan bellowed tearfully.

looool

iirc bellamy hilariously also stewed on the whole thing for hours before suddenly deciding to burst into riise's room and hack away while he was asleep.

― r|t|c, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:59 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

see, i know dudes like this.

they were all footballers fwiw

yeah i also know dudes like that but i just assumed it was cos theyre all from birmingham, or not-london as i tend to think of it.

I bet Adebayor still thinks about lamping Bendtner over the trainers fiasco

"i'm only on because you're shit" is still yoga-flame all time material

milner to city confirmed, says the little red breaking news box on the graun site.

and Ireland to Villa

Zzzzzzzzz.

well there you go martin, a top player and a fat wodge of cash to cover everything you wasted and keep us solvent... m-martin? mr o'neill? hellooo? oh, where he's gone.

re the scholes commentary above i had to look up "reducer" - it meant what i thought it meant - and found the following page, which i found hugely informative -

http://backofthenet.wikia.com/wiki/Professionalism_and_Experience

Ah:

RT @DTguardian: Sky reporting Bellamy has snubbed #Fulham #SAFC #Everton #Celtic and a few others to agree loan to Cardiff #MCFC #bluebirds about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck

it's all happening

Takes throw-ins from many yards further forward than where the ball went out of play, by stealing a series of tiny tip-toe steps which add up to around 50 metres.

Has anyone ever seen a foul throw given for this at any level? At the world cup I remember one ball which went out off the corner flag, so there was absolutely no doubt at all where the throw in was from, and it still ended up being chucked from level with the penalty spot. I wonder what would have happen if he'd just walked to the halfway line.

I've seen players being brought back before they take the throw, aye.

ref would have stopped him at that stage.

linesman stopped assou-ekotto twice at the weekend for stealing maybe 3 inches

Pretty sure I've seen foul throws awarded for this. Also player made to go back and take throw from the correct spot.

(xp)

Depends how quickly the game is moving

did big ron really invent reducer...? i thought it was old as time itself.

www.dangerhere.com

Stiv Bators surely

http://wosound.com/images/sonic%20reducer.jpg

But, seriously, sounds like a term from American Football to me

.. or ice hockey or sumthin'

Lansdowne Road jangled with nervous tension, but there was also something crazy in the air - and one man was determined to ensure the Dutch knew there was also madness on the pitch: 35 seconds into the game, Roy Keane crunched into Overmars like a tank into shack, almost crushing the little winger underfoot as Kluivert, seemingly on the verge of tears, hopped up and down in impotent outrage. The referee - a German, as Dutch journalists pointedly noted - didn't even book Ireland's captain. A minute later, the still-flustered Kluivert was sent through one-on-one with Shay Given ... and steered his shot wide. Thus were laid the foundations for a famous Irish victory.

tears in my eyes here

Liverpool's phony hard-man Steve McMahon, who had just toebunged in a superb third, was the cock of the walk in midfield. But he could barely walk when Whiteside came off the bench and, without even touching the ball, clattered him before whispering something sinister in his ear.

could read an entire book worth of this

Sure we did reducers in a thread once.

*googles for Neil Simpson* - aye, here you go: showboating in football - c or d?