― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Iran and the Us are much alike. big democracies, both with faults in their democratic process. Both with a history of state sponsorship of terror (Iran with hezbollah and in Iraq now, the US all over south america in the past, in afghanistan in the 80s the hot wars could be called terror as well). Both have a strong religious leaning, both are naturally conservative with a very dynamic youth culture.
Think about it. No matter how you can point to how the Iranians gerrymandered their last election, a hell of a lot of people voted for Amedinhejad. They made a choice.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link
*tho i don't think the latter is likely to happen.
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/iran/
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Ed (dal...), September 21st, 2006.
Sure, and I guess the Constitution isn't that different from the Koran either.
We're stretching things a little though, aren't we?
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link
If a certain elite holds the ultimate veto power on anything and everything, how could their system be described as democracy? it would be oligrachy.
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff
― schwantz (schwantz), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Venga (Venga), Friday, 22 September 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
1. America sending warships to the Middle East (shocking)2. Partisan hacks denouncing Bush
I'm not convinced.
― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 22 September 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 22 September 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 22 September 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Strained, Army Looks to Guard for More Relief
By THOM SHANKER and MICHAEL R. GORDONWASHINGTON, Sept. 21 — Strains on the Army from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have become so severe that Army officials say they may be forced to make greater use of the National Guard to provide enough troops for overseas deployments.
― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 22 September 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link
is it too much to ask generals not to obey their orders? is that a remote possibility?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 September 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link
i have long felt as though, through its actions, the bush administration have effectively been waging a kind of proxy war against americans, because they've made us all considerably *less* safe for generations. if they do anything to iran you can be sure this will get much worse.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 September 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 September 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link
wow.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 23 September 2006 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Saturday, 23 September 2006 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Saturday, 23 September 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link
SP is maybe learning a lesson from the Iraq was that is not fully transferrable. In Iraq, the invasion went well, but attempts to build a new friendly Iraq have been a disaster, but the Iraqi state was undoubtedly destroyed by the invasion. So, maybe when he talks of a "raid", SP means a big invasion, aimed at sending a panzer legion to Teheran, to decapitate the Iranian regime, and then to pull the fuck out, leaving the country to collapse into chaos.
I don't think the Iranian regime would be as easy to decapitate as that of Iran - it is more broadly based, the ideological underpinnings behind it touch more nerves, and by virtue of its being more politically open it is less likely to be the case that exterminating Khamenei and Ahmadinejad would see Iran tip into chaos. So I reckon that the kind of smash and grab raid that I suggest SP is advocating would just make the Iranians very pissed off and make them more inclined to develop nuclear weapons as a way of deterring any future US adventurism.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Today, the USS Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group leaves port in Norfolk for the Persian Gulf. The group includes the USS Anzio, the guided-missile destroyers USS Ramage and USS Mason and the attack sub USS Newport News. Time and The Nation are among the mainstream mags saying this is the beginning of the war.
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Put Options Accumulating for October (Surprise)? :.
WARNING: The following is not a recommendation to buy, sell or hold any financial instrument.
With my recent commentary on oil in mind, add this to the mix:
"Do you like October suprises? Is there a big bang coming to hit the markets? If you believe that those in the know use insider information before major events then you might be interested on the HUGE number of October 6th put options for the big indexes.
Dow near record highs. The consumer going broke on stupid real estate deals. If I was a gambling man, which I'm not, I'd be taking puts on the major indexes too.
But is there more to it? We'll find out in a few days.
― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link