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i don't think i've ever fully understood anything alex has said :)

nb: this is a joke.

well, apart from that time i rang him in a panic, while revising for my finals, and asked him to explain poststructuralism. over pints in the earl of marchmont.

the only bit i fully remember was: "haven't you two sorry fuckers got hovels to go back to?"

enough, i'm off to the GYM.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I could possibly do the 8th. Not the 10th though, I'm afraid. Gig of the year in Glasgow, which I can't miss.

Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

enough, i'm off to the GYM.

I hope that's a joke.

Ally: Chas & Dave?

KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry... Chas 'n' Dave.

KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

You missing here already, Neil?

I'm spending, on average, one weekend out of every 2 in edinburgh at the moment. I miss some of the people there but I don't miss the place.

I'm totally flexible with regards to dates & times & locations. I realise the pond is totally inconvenient for anyone (myself included) whodoes not stay in leith.

hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

is that your real e-mail address neil?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Leith's a bit awkward for me as I commute in from Fife.

Greig (treefell), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

is that your real e-mail address neil?

I'll send you my real email address...

hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I could probably make the Saturday if that's easier for people. Or we afternoon FAP if it's the w/end. I thought this was a local FAP for local people, mind :-)

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Edinburgh and Glasgow are local.

hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Salamander St the street that runs through the links to the foot of Restalrig Road? Depending on what time the FAP is, i'll be getting the 25, 32 or 49 to Duke street and walking down Constitution street.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Just been looking at the map, from what i can gather salamander street is a continuation of seafield road, am i right?

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup. Joins Seafield road to Commercial St. It's a bit of a waste land down there.

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

saturday evening would be good for me. if i'm coming to edinburgh on the thursday, i will be duty-bound to go to the swimmer one thing - and feel obliged to force everyone to accompany me.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

saturday afternoon is do-able, though.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Saturday afternoon sounds like a plan. What about the Cameo, it's nice there and probably easier to get to?

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Are we going with Sat p.m. then? Original discussion with Keith involved the Filmhouse, in honour of our many-years-ago theory. Will there be a contingent from the weej going to this Swimmer One thing anyway?

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Saturday afernoon is fine by me... Leigh, when you say the Cameo, I assume you mean the Cameo down in Leith (is it on Commercial Street?) or do you mean the Cameo Cinema bar at Tollcross?

It doesn't matter to me; I'm happy with all the plans.

Happy to come along to the Swimmer One thing to see you Simon; just can't be arsed trying to talk to people over a load of noise from pish bands. Swimmer One is a Wire b-side isn't it? How obscure. If I ran a night, I'd call it "rabbit".

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

...Actually, when we did do a night a few years ago, Dave wanted to call it "The Soft Machine", so I went ahead and made a bunch of nice colour posters to hang up about the place on the night. He did burst out laughing when he saw them, as I'd written "The Soft Parade" all over them. D'oh!

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I guessed she meant the cinema / superpub (ok not anymore, but it still smells of wee) given the 'easier to get to' bit ;-).

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Grimly, it's Jacki3's leaving shinnndig of drunken bammery on the 10th.


stet (stet), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually meant the Cameo pub in Leith.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, see 'easy to get to' is relative to where you are... So the Cameo in Leith is easy to get to for say, sailors.

The one time I've been in there I liked it, quite happy, but if others want further up town so they can get there more easily then that's fine too.

Let's make a decision tomorrow!

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the Leith cameo -- it doesn't smell of wee, and I shall stop trying to second-guess Leigh!

alext (alext), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I've not been to the Cameo cinema bar in years, from what i can remember it's pretty tiny.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

They expanded through the wall into the shop next door, so it's a lot bigger and now a trendy place for Edinburgh's middle aged cinema goers to drink. It is usually very smokey though.

alext (alext), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Aren't they talking about ripping up the seats in the main screen and converting it to a bar?
I read something about there being a campaign to save it.

Greig (treefell), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be a shame if they turned the Cameo into a superpub, i always liked it but tend to go to Filmhouse for arthousey flicks.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Swimmer One is a Wire b-side isn't it

no. that's "our swimmer".

alex: if there's no thursday-night fappery, i won't bother coming through for the gig (sorry, swimmer one) ... saturday afternoon is cool, though. hurrah. wherever we may end up.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, right you are. I'm actually semi-glad I got it wrong, unless getting it wrong is cool in ILX land, in which case I would have liked to have got it right. Or vice versa.

I can't see the hordes that will attend this fitting into the Cameo cinema bar, but then I also sympathise with those who don't live in Edinburgh and don't want to go looking for the Cameo bar.

Here's a suggestion - how's about the (Car) Wash on the mound? It's easy to get to for travellers.

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

NO NOT THE CAR WASH IT SUCKS COCKS IN HELL.

i'd be well up for the cameo bar. it'd be like a homecoming. of sorts.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Simon, you'll have to keep up... Which Cameo bar?

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just going to meet Ath0le in the Car Wash shortly. What's so bad about it?

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not particularly horrid. There are just many better places.

Kays Bar? The barman has a waxed Dali type moustache.

hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

keith, sorry: i meant the cinema one in my post, although i was being slightly tongue-in-cheek. i don't think it'd be entirely practical.

i haven't been in the car wash since 1994, but i remember it as a vile seventies theme pub populated by second-year english-lit undergraduates in silly hats talking about how they were taking up the didgeridoo.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Simon, the biggest problem it has for me now is that it isn't a '70s theme pub. It's been done up, at least twice since then. It did strike me there last night you might've hated it as it was right next to your halls.

Neil, Kay's Bar is a great idea, and the bloke is funny; like the bar man in Withnail and I, but I'm fairly sure it's been something else for about four years now. Come to think of it, maybe I'm thinking of another place. I think it's called Indigo now. Ah! No, I'm thinking of Aubrey's, which had a similar landlord and was in a similar place.

OK. We should vote. The voting closes Monday at 8 o'clock. The (practical) suggestions are:

- The Cameo in Leith
- The Car Wash
- Kay's Bar in the new town

KeefW (kmw), Saturday, 26 November 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Kay's looks good. It would seem that i've agreed to dog sit on the evening of 10/12 so i might not be able to stay for that long.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 09:36 (eighteen years ago) link

central is good, and Wash is not good (difficult table layout?), so my vote for Kays I s'pose.

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Kays.

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Jamaica St btw?

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Dunno.

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

If you're interested: http://www.savethecameo.org/

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't jamaica st up in the second part of the new town?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yes: it's a really cool area. i used to go walking round there admiring the buildings a lot. kay's sounds fantastic to me.

what sort of time are we doing this thang?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Kays bar is here

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yes I have been there I think. I drank too much.

3pm was mentioned at some point, wasn't it?

alext (alext), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

was it?

i can be there for about 4ish. or so.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Three pm would be ideal as it'd give me plenty time to get back to give Jed his dinner and evening walk. I'd better not drink too much as drunken dog walking is not to be recommended.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Conversation whilst watching (I later found out) Swimmer One the other day:

Me: "Do you know what this band are called?"
Bloke sitting next to me: "SHITE"
Me: "Is that actually the name of the band, or just your opinion?"
Bloke: "My opinion"
Me: "It would be good if you got to name every band you saw. I get the feeling most of them would be called 'SHITE'"
Bloke: "Yes, they would. Why, what would you call this band?"
Me: "I would called them 'I'm quite enjoying this'"
Bloke (giving me a funny look): "Oh"

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What did he think of Smoosh?

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link


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