Spielberg & Kushner's Munich '72 / Israeli vengeance film

especially with kushner writing

So get the fuck off it ethan, either you're arguing me about SPR (which I just said I don't remember and neither like nor dislike) or you're arguing with me about a film I've passed no judgement on that hasn't been released yet. If you're arguing with me that, like, I don't like Spielberg's treatment of serious subjects in previous films, well bully for fucking you dude. Direct your idiotic momus-baiting (???) at Alex, I guess.

I think this movie stands a chance! If I like it I will just make sure to keep track of the total running time and leave 15 minutes prior to the credits, so that I don't have the experience ruined by five and a half pounds of lukewarm velveeta shot down my esophagus.

anyway--SPR is pretty good. not anywhere near the league of something like The Thin Red Line. too many people fetishize ambiguity for the sake of ambiguity. what i liked about it though was the anxiety about paying debts to those who have made sacrifices on your behalf. the injunction to "earn it" is such a huge mind fuck!! (yes i know i he veers away from that abyss to some bland conclusion, but still it's there)

both these movies are shit.

That said, I still agree with those who said he'll probably fuck the whole movie up with the last 15 minutes. Every time I see one of his movies, I'm almost yelling at the screen: "Okay! OKAY! I get the fucking POINT already! Turn the strings down, dude."

Catch Me If You Can and the Terminal were just awful, though.

If you mean by that "the last 25 minutes."

The ending of "AI" is perfect, creepy, and the same one Kubrick and his writers devised.

Fidel Castro thinks "Jaws" is a great critique of capitalism (ie, let's keep those beaches open).

For all his unevenness, Spielberg, among directors working in the classical Hollywood style, has one of the greatest image-making talents in the history of the medium. If you don't happen to like the classical Hollywood style, fine. That's why Tarantino's fetish for remixing '70s drive-in movies has a market (and probably why they do better in DVD sales than at the b.o.).

well, ok, if it is then sign me up. was it a Bad War, or more bad than good? the germans were evil SOBs, and they did get what was coming to them.

The setup is very SPR-like - 'we must do our duty, even when it is stupid and even morally compromised, because it is our DUTY.'

again, how was liberating france 'stupid and morally compromised'?

-- gear (speed.to.roa...), November 8th, 2005.

gear otm, as usual

I'm not gonna like your movie either.

POSITIVE NINE BILLION STYLE POINTS

-- TOMBOT (stick...), November 9th, 2005.

hahah otm

Mayor Murray Hamilton, ladies and gents.

I don't think The Big Red One is as great as Fullerites claim either, but he and Spielberg are no more alike than either of them resemble Malick.

The post-Normandy SPR narrative harkens back to '40s WW2 movies like "A Walk in the Sun," and improves on most of them.

No I wouldn't say either is much alike either, although there are some obvious similarities between TBR1 and SPR (and not just the Normandy sequences.)