― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sure I read something saying Celtic and Rangers fans competed for bragging rights over their 9s and 10s in-a-row and that Celtic fans always had the trump card with that Euopean Cup victory. But separating truth from London media myth with regards to the Old Firm is very tough, it seems. Going to live in Scotland to find out the truth is not really on my agenda.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
Well I can't speak for Celtic fans generally, but certainly the Scottish press went over it a few times...
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
Finally I doubt anyone would dispute that England are underachievers, the only reason Spain are considered greater underachivers? COS THEY'VE DONE EVEN WORSE THAN ENGLAND.
x-post Mikey it's borne out of hearing people moaning over and over again here about England, despite the fact we all follow English club teams. Also first hand experience of living in London during the last World Cup and having pretty much every English person I talked to sounding genuinely upset when we lost to Spain.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
:-(
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
I am not terrified about the prospect of meeting Spain, Portugal OR Greece in the quarters. They are all beatable.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
Oh, great - now Dadaismus is coming round to evict me.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
Err- yes. I work there.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
Bingo! As are all the other teams.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link
there was certainly mention of 1967 LAST NIGHT when larrson scored...
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:28 (twenty years ago) link
Yes, but I work for an insurance company and always forget to renew my car tax.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link
Not so much with Holland as they actually underachieved, especially in the 70s.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
julio, that sentence makes no sense...
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
Steve, I live in London, I talk to English people every day! That last sentence does not necessarily follow of course...
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
Aye, Charlie N1cholas and Derek J0hnstone both get a page each to demonstrate why former footballers have no place in journalism.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
Unless the FIFA ranking ignore friendlies (and they might) then this is a bit unfair. The USA play lots of European/South America teams and do OK against them too (a draw with Denmark and a win over Poland this year - is that right, Ben?). Besides, they did reach the last eight of the 2002 WC.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link