or taylor swift has swept lisa loeb in the relevancy sweepstakes
― balls, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
missing the point that for gaga, the rather inhuman machinery of celebrity is both playground and subject. never get the impression that gaga intends to be sexy, but rather sex-like, in the way that pop celebrity is always sex-like, a strained parody. agree with CP's observations, but not with what she makes of them.
Yeah, this. I'm surprised how often people point out how unsexy Lady Gaga is, as if they're the first to notice, when her unsexiness seems to be part of the point of her. If you want to be sexy you don't dance around in that horrid old underwear she wears in Alejandro or put on the drag queen make-up she has in the Telephone video, a lot of what she wears seems purposely designed to look unflattering. It's definitely more of a parody than a sincere attempt at being sexy and it's a bit odd how people look at her and think "failed sexiness" rather than wondering if a female pop singer might have other aims.
― 8 (88), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 08:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Other aims, like entertaining people?
― Aimless, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
making crutches sexy
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know if this is challops or what but I think Lady Gaga is sexy as hell.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Some old women find cats sexy.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Paglia votes Green: http://www.salon.com/2012/10/10/camille_paglias_glittering_images/
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
(she proclaims “Star Wars” creator George Lucas our greatest living artist)
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
But I think that Mitt Romney is a moderate — like Nelson Rockefeller, who as governor of New York poured money into the state university system that educated me. Romney is an affable, successful businessman whose skills seem well-suited to this particular moment of economic crisis. Hence I want to use my vote to make a statement about my unhappiness with the Democratic Party and the direction it has taken. The biggest issue for me is the Obama administration’s continuation of endless war, war, war. I denounced the Iraq incursion before it even happened.
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
My third reason for going Green is the creeping totalitarianism of Obamacare, which Jill Stein as a physician is rightly skeptical about. I began denouncing the Obamacare bill in my Salon column within two months after Obama’s inauguration. And I was also criticizing the President’s imprisonment within an insular circle of advisors who were not of sufficient quality and experience as administrators or strategists to sustain his presidency. If Democrats and their cohorts in the mainstream media had listened to me and begun criticizing the administration early on, there would have been ample time for a course correction and Obama would now be sailing into reelection.
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
she is so dumb
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
only nixon could go to china
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
afghanistan is the grave of empire
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
and other historical observations by camille paglia
obamacare is creeping totalitarianism and it also doesn't spend enough on new doctors and hospitals
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
whenever she talks about the 60s she's like a really uncharitable parody of a boomer
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
what is this weird "I totally complained about that BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED" rhetorical tack she seems so fond of
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, i can't believe this is the paglia thread that u guys bumped. we have such a better one!
― Mordy, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
did it include this
http://images.tcj.com/2011/12/Mbooty6-a.jpg
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
my preferred paglia thread:sexual personae
― Mordy, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
"Her book is over 700 pages long!"
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes the Vision thread
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp
Hi!
Ms. Paglia observes this phenomenon up close with her 11-year-old son, Lucien, whom she is raising with her ex-partner, Alison Maddex, an artist and public-school teacher who lives 2 miles away. She sees the tacit elevation of "female values"—such as sensitivity, socialization and cooperation—as the main aim of teachers, rather than fostering creative energy and teaching hard geographical and historical facts.
By her lights, things only get worse in higher education. "This PC gender politics thing—the way gender is being taught in the universities—in a very anti-male way, it's all about neutralization of maleness." The result: Upper-middle-class men who are "intimidated" and "can't say anything. . . . They understand the agenda." In other words: They avoid goring certain sacred cows by "never telling the truth to women" about sex, and by keeping "raunchy" thoughts and sexual fantasies to themselves and their laptops.
Politically correct, inadequate education, along with the decline of America's brawny industrial base, leaves many men with "no models of manhood," she says. "Masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. There's nothing left. There's no room for anything manly right now." The only place you can hear what men really feel these days, she claims, is on sports radio. No surprise, she is an avid listener. The energy and enthusiasm "inspires me as a writer," she says, adding: "If we had to go to war," the callers "are the men that would save the nation."
And men aren't the only ones suffering from the decline of men. Women, particularly elite upper-middle-class women, have become "clones" condemned to "Pilates for the next 30 years," Ms. Paglia says. "Our culture doesn't allow women to know how to be womanly," adding that online pornography is increasingly the only place where men and women in our sexless culture tap into "primal energy" in a way they can't in real life.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 December 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
She's got to stop reading Momus' old clickopera blog.
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 29 December 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
i hate to go there (really) but, if you're so twisted up about disappearing masculinity, why did you name your kid 'lucien'
― napgenius (goole), Sunday, 29 December 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
every paragraph is funnier than the last
http://time.com/72546/drinking-age-alcohol-repeal/
― goole, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
both dionysus and PCP are referenced
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/28/camille_paglia_how_bill_clinton_is_like_bill_cosby/
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
It’s a very sophisticated style among the French, and generally in Europe, where the heads of state tend to have mistresses on the side. So what? That doesn’t bother me at all! But the point is, they are sophisticated affairs that the European politicians have,
lol waht
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
she's such a buffoon
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
DSK raping a hotel maid, Berlusconi banging underage prostitutes, so sophisticated
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
otoh "I’m not talking in terms of the men’s rights movement, which got infected by p.c." is pretty A+ zing
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
I don't even know what that means tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
MRA guys are generally virulently anti-pc, aren't they?
nah, they are always adopting tumblr pc lingo (which turns out to be very malleable for whatever u need)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
you'll forgive me for staring at the URL a little while longer
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
i find that she's always on the right side of the line between tedious and hilarious
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
are you serious
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah, someone mentioned ann coulter in the salon comments but i can't read any coulter. she's just asinine + shrill + stupid. paglia is really trolly but can be provocative. she's like off-beat enough that i find her more of a crank than just some boring ideologue.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
paglia is a cruel ideologue
http://www.macleans.ca/authors/emma-teitel/camille-paglia-on-rob-ford-rihanna-and-rape-culture/
Can we teach men not to rape, as some argue?
A: You can try to teach people to make ethical judgments. Telling a rapist not to rape? [Laughs] A liberal ideology is out there that people are basically good. It’s a bourgeois version of reality—this idea that the whole world should be like a bourgeois living room and anyone who doesn’t belong, you can retrain. No you can’t! I was raised in the Italian working-class way, which is “watch out!” The world is a dangerous place. It’s up to you to protect yourself, not just from rape, but from anything. The lack of imagination for criminality amazes me. There are people who are evil. The problem here is the inability of women to project themselves into the minds of men. Feminists say [proper, mocking tone] “women have the right to do whatever they want.” Of course we have the right to do whatever we want–to be jogging with earphones on with our breasts going like this [simulates breasts bouncing]. Yes you have the right to but it’s also stupid! I see with the eyes of the criminal. I must have a criminal mind.
"lack of imagination for criminality," you don't say
― goole, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
But like I think there's truth in what she's saying. I think there is this current in popular culture of "tell your sons not to rape" which ignores that rapists are already violating serious + widespread social taboos and probably are not just confused about the ethics of their behavior. there's a psychopathy to these kinds of violent crimes (i'd include murder too) that means that certain social remedies - like robust legal prosecution of rapists, believing rape victims - can definitely help and others - explain how rape is wrong - are just silly.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Now, in order to understand that, people would have to read my first book, “Sexual Personae”–which of course is far too complex for the ordinary feminist or academic mind!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
bet she insisted on inserting the exclamation point
Paglia is the Great Kat of philosophy.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
The one place we should be worried about is India.
Because it's concerning to see a problem with rape in a rapidly developing, pluralistic democracy? Or is she actually implying that India has a larger rape problem than any other country in the world, which seems absurd?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for that link, 誤訳侮辱!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
I'd guess the latter why because she is an idiot
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
yep, i'd forgotton about the Great Kat and her website is now the highlight of my day
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
vile human being
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
paglia was and remains an idiot
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link