Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga
colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
racist, clearly not
would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
http://altreport.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/09/kings-of-leon-hires-choir-of-black-children-to-make-their-new-mp3-sound-more-soulful.html
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Still waiting for an apology.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"
(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)
― juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna lol if it was Hype Williams
― juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Sophie Muller directed it.
― Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
OK, how about this?
http://gawker.com/5643372/this-weeks-new-yorker-cartoon-caption-contest-winner-pretty-racist
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
more offensive for not being funny
― bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/zBOSA-500x375.jpg
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
that was a fake
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet
so yes, racist
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
strictly concern trolling in here.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
take it to i love footy
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning
― jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
barf
http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png
maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
http://hipsterhitler.com/
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link
gawker isnt a message board
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ilx is my favorite blog
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link
MIXMASTERRACE
EASTSIDEWESTSIDEGENOCIDE
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link
is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc
I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions
― 4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.
Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link
are the finns a race?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.
Guess they didn't have Google then either.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),
jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
zorn smash
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
is this chorus racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
?
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://dasracist.net/
― am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"
it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i can def see that
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.
― doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.
― zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.
― zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too
― sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?
I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.
― del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?
*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*
― del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews
― sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.
― SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
What would be in a cocktail called the Black Viking?
2oz blackstrap rum (black)1/2 oz lime (for scurvy)1/2 oz Cherry Heering float (blood)rub rim with honey (Mead)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 13:27 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMA2Kc7TiO0
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:51 (two months ago) link
Seth MacFarlane is producing this I'm sure he'll keep everything above board
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:59 (two months ago) link
They roped Steph Curry into slapping his name on this? It also says Norman Lear is producing and he even got higher billing than McFarlane, in spite of the fact he's dead.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
Ouija-ing it in
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link
Animation famously takes three months total from pitch to screen.
― bae (sic), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:16 (two months ago) link
Lear because he produced the original Good Times, I presume.
― nickn, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link
Yeah, it's like how anytime anyone makes a Halloween thing they have to cut John Carpenter a check, or how anytime anyone makes an Alien thing they have to cut Walter Hill a check.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link
yes this ought to fix everything pic.twitter.com/bAGJCi1ZRt— kep (@keplyq) May 28, 2024
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:17 (two days ago) link
Why did I read this at work
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:27 (two days ago) link
I’m going to have to explain to my coworkers why I’m making this face
is the argument that people who object to them hitting their kids are being implicitly racist against people of colour, because people of colour are more likely to hit their kids, or that people who object to them hitting their kids are being racist against whites, because they're getting flack that non-white people don't get for doing the same thing?
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:34 (two days ago) link
why can't it be both
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:35 (two days ago) link
it's basically claiming it's a racist double standard, which is of course nonsense
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:46 (two days ago) link
The convoluted thinking and absurd racist claims from that couple are pretty gobsmacking. I mean everyone rationalizes, but not everyone rationalizes so fucking awfully.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:10 (two days ago) link
Not at all gobsmacking, the dumbest people on earth will be lining up to high five them for so thoroughly owning the libs.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:30 (two days ago) link
Guarantee Elon Musk has forwarded that link to all eight of his baby mamas.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:31 (two days ago) link
the "tu quoque" line of arguing is always suspect, like, when minorities claim racist double standards, they're usually talking about things that actually not a big deal that they get disproportionate criticism for while white people get none.
they're not saying "WELL YEAH I MURDERED SOMEONE AT A CHUCK E CHEESE BUT IT'S OK BECAUSE OTHER RACES MURDER AND NOBODY CRITICIZES THEM FOR KILLING PEOPLE". not to mention, Adrian Peterson's child abuse got him indicted and his career destroyed, so, uhm, yeah, people do actually care about it, beating your kid like is actually illegal, and AP probably got way more flack than a white player would have gotten in the same circumstance.
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:31 (two days ago) link
Adrian Peterson came to mind immediately for me, too
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:57 (two days ago) link
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:27 PM
They must be used to seeing it by now.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:17 (two days ago) link
I'm literally stunned by this. Like how grown-in-a-vat/raised-in-an-underground-bunker sheltered do you have to be to have thought this was a good idea? Sorry, just being Canadian doesn't come close to covering it.
http://x.com/ForsterSam/status/1795492082636795958
For those who can't see it, the tweet reads: "Last summer, I disguised myself as a Black man and traveled throughout the United States to document how racism persists in American society.
Writing Seven Shoulders was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done as a journalist.
It’s out on May 30th"
And here's a picture of Mr. Blackface himself:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1223685835213635585/AtC1SVQN_400x400.jpg
FTR, the Amazon description of his booky wook contains the phrase "...in order to taxonomize the various types of racism that persist in modern America." Ooh! Ooh! I bet I know which one he decided was the worst!
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:19 (two days ago) link
Black Like Me 2 wasn't a sequel I expected this year
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:21 (two days ago) link
the Amazon description of his book also includes the sentence "Seven Shoulders is the most important book on American race relations that has ever been written", so I don't think he's oblivious, just trolling
― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:24 (two days ago) link
it only being 193 pages means it's going to be less an analysis more than a personal log recording one sentence descriptions of discrimination he faced while in "disguise", like here a racism, there a racism, everywhere a racism
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:29 (two days ago) link
uh
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:30 (two days ago) link
even Rachel Dolezal is like “dude no”
That’s funny, I have a sort of similar pitch I’m trying to sell where I travel around Canada discreetly disguised as a moose.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:34 (two days ago) link
Forster has contributed an article that was published in both RealClearPolicy and Quillette about the movie Joker and white people committing crimes that suggests to me this dude has the intelligence of a peanut
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:42 (two days ago) link
also wrote an article for National Post this March solely centered around Israeli civilians that have been displaced due to Hezbollah rockets and their plight, while making zero mention at all about the death toll Gaza civilians have suffered whatsoever, or even mentioning them outside of referring to them like the entire nation of people who live there is a warring party. i'm good w/ this dude getting dragged
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:45 (two days ago) link
Forster has contributed an article that was published in both RealClearPolicy and Quillette
OK, all done here. Thanks for dumpster diving on our behalf.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:54 (two days ago) link
jacquesface
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:17 (two days ago) link
tipsy moosra
― Millennium Falco (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:23 (two days ago) link
I saw that Sam Forster tweet and was waiting for the punchline... is that actually what he has done and written about? I mean it's great we'll finally get to read about what racism is like I guess
― kinder, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 10:11 (yesterday) link
based on other articles I've read of this dude yesterday his book is probably going to chronicle that nobody was bad to him whatsoever and that clearly this means minorities are making it all up
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 13:45 (yesterday) link
saddened to see so much anti-Canadian racism in the rolling "Is This Racist?" thread
― rob, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 13:46 (yesterday) link
Maybe a white American will disguise himself as a white Canadian and see the prejudice they encounter
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:03 (yesterday) link
i disguised myself as an Australian and only spoke Strine, here is a picture book of the confused looks I got
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:09 (yesterday) link
sew a Canadian flag on the backpack, automatic book deal
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:15 (yesterday) link
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, May 29, 2024 11:03 AM (thirteen minutes ago)
this is called ilx ;_;
― rob, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 15:18 (yesterday) link