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would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

barf

http://i55.tinypic.com/25oxf7k.png

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

is this chorus racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY&ob=av3n

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the AIristocrats!

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2024 12:57 (three months ago) link

What would be in a cocktail called the Black Viking?

2oz blackstrap rum (black)
1/2 oz lime (for scurvy)
1/2 oz Cherry Heering float (blood)
rub rim with honey (Mead)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 13:27 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Seth MacFarlane is producing this I'm sure he'll keep everything above board

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:59 (two months ago) link

They roped Steph Curry into slapping his name on this? It also says Norman Lear is producing and he even got higher billing than McFarlane, in spite of the fact he's dead.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link

Ouija-ing it in

President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link

Animation famously takes three months total from pitch to screen.

bae (sic), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:16 (two months ago) link

Lear because he produced the original Good Times, I presume.

nickn, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link

Yeah, it's like how anytime anyone makes a Halloween thing they have to cut John Carpenter a check, or how anytime anyone makes an Alien thing they have to cut Walter Hill a check.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

yes this ought to fix everything pic.twitter.com/bAGJCi1ZRt

— kep (@keplyq) May 28, 2024

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:17 (yesterday) link

Why did I read this at work

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:27 (yesterday) link

I’m going to have to explain to my coworkers why I’m making this face

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:27 (yesterday) link

is the argument that people who object to them hitting their kids are being implicitly racist against people of colour, because people of colour are more likely to hit their kids, or that people who object to them hitting their kids are being racist against whites, because they're getting flack that non-white people don't get for doing the same thing?

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:34 (yesterday) link

why can't it be both

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:35 (yesterday) link

it's basically claiming it's a racist double standard, which is of course nonsense

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:46 (yesterday) link

The convoluted thinking and absurd racist claims from that couple are pretty gobsmacking. I mean everyone rationalizes, but not everyone rationalizes so fucking awfully.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:10 (yesterday) link

Not at all gobsmacking, the dumbest people on earth will be lining up to high five them for so thoroughly owning the libs.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:30 (yesterday) link

Guarantee Elon Musk has forwarded that link to all eight of his baby mamas.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:31 (yesterday) link

the "tu quoque" line of arguing is always suspect, like, when minorities claim racist double standards, they're usually talking about things that actually not a big deal that they get disproportionate criticism for while white people get none.

they're not saying "WELL YEAH I MURDERED SOMEONE AT A CHUCK E CHEESE BUT IT'S OK BECAUSE OTHER RACES MURDER AND NOBODY CRITICIZES THEM FOR KILLING PEOPLE". not to mention, Adrian Peterson's child abuse got him indicted and his career destroyed, so, uhm, yeah, people do actually care about it, beating your kid like is actually illegal, and AP probably got way more flack than a white player would have gotten in the same circumstance.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:31 (yesterday) link

Adrian Peterson came to mind immediately for me, too

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:57 (yesterday) link

I’m going to have to explain to my coworkers why I’m making this face

― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:27 PM

They must be used to seeing it by now.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:17 (yesterday) link

I'm literally stunned by this. Like how grown-in-a-vat/raised-in-an-underground-bunker sheltered do you have to be to have thought this was a good idea? Sorry, just being Canadian doesn't come close to covering it.

http://x.com/ForsterSam/status/1795492082636795958

For those who can't see it, the tweet reads: "Last summer, I disguised myself as a Black man and traveled throughout the United States to document how racism persists in American society.

Writing Seven Shoulders was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done as a journalist.

It’s out on May 30th"

And here's a picture of Mr. Blackface himself:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1223685835213635585/AtC1SVQN_400x400.jpg

FTR, the Amazon description of his booky wook contains the phrase "...in order to taxonomize the various types of racism that persist in modern America." Ooh! Ooh! I bet I know which one he decided was the worst!

Black Like Me 2 wasn't a sequel I expected this year

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:21 (yesterday) link

the Amazon description of his book also includes the sentence "Seven Shoulders is the most important book on American race relations that has ever been written", so I don't think he's oblivious, just trolling

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:24 (yesterday) link

it only being 193 pages means it's going to be less an analysis more than a personal log recording one sentence descriptions of discrimination he faced while in "disguise", like here a racism, there a racism, everywhere a racism

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:29 (yesterday) link

uh

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:30 (yesterday) link

even Rachel Dolezal is like “dude no”

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:30 (yesterday) link

That’s funny, I have a sort of similar pitch I’m trying to sell where I travel around Canada discreetly disguised as a moose.

Forster has contributed an article that was published in both RealClearPolicy and Quillette about the movie Joker and white people committing crimes that suggests to me this dude has the intelligence of a peanut

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:42 (yesterday) link

also wrote an article for National Post this March solely centered around Israeli civilians that have been displaced due to Hezbollah rockets and their plight, while making zero mention at all about the death toll Gaza civilians have suffered whatsoever, or even mentioning them outside of referring to them like the entire nation of people who live there is a warring party. i'm good w/ this dude getting dragged

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:45 (yesterday) link

Forster has contributed an article that was published in both RealClearPolicy and Quillette

OK, all done here. Thanks for dumpster diving on our behalf.

That’s funny, I have a sort of similar pitch I’m trying to sell where I travel around Canada discreetly disguised as a moose.

jacquesface

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:17 (yesterday) link

tipsy moosra

Millennium Falco (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 22:23 (yesterday) link

I saw that Sam Forster tweet and was waiting for the punchline... is that actually what he has done and written about?

I mean it's great we'll finally get to read about what racism is like I guess

kinder, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 10:11 (four hours ago) link

based on other articles I've read of this dude yesterday his book is probably going to chronicle that nobody was bad to him whatsoever and that clearly this means minorities are making it all up

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 13:45 (forty-seven minutes ago) link

saddened to see so much anti-Canadian racism in the rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

rob, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 13:46 (forty-six minutes ago) link


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