Why do you think he did it? What makes it plausible?
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Not to mention that while the first part is technically correct, the second part rather explicitly isn't. He didn't merely reference lynching, he rather specifically used the word "we," the construction was very conspiratorial, like he expected the audience to agree with him.
xpost Alex, jaymc is kind of having his own private thread as established earlier. Also the fork thing is OTM, what a weird thing to say.
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Is there some reason that cracker is not a racist term in your mind?
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Nobody explicitly, but the general tone of the thread implied it.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM.
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i.e. context only matters wrt what the black dudes in the audience said, not, you know, America 1600-2006.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess that's why everybody calls each other nigga as a term of endearment and nobody calls each other cracker.
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
ppl seriously need to stop acting like 'cracker' is a deeply offensive, hurtful term. they also need to stop acting like 'the abuses of political correctness' are far worse than centuries of slavery, lynching, rape and institutionalized bigotry, that the white man's suffered as much as the black man now cuz he has to be more creative about how he hates. also seriously seriously seriously folx: stop responding to racist trolls like nude spock, stet. and seriously seriously jaymc: stop doing nude spock's spin doctor work.
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― roc u like a ยง (ex machina), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Monday, 20 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
That's like expecting Gilligan to some day make it off the island.
― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
WTF. Now I want to shake you. How else do we intuit motivations? I'm not saying behavior and motivation are always inexorably linked, but are you suggesting that they never are? If someone in a car yells "N*gger!" at a black pedestrian, should we not intuit motivation from that behavior? And if we shouldn't, doesn't that suggest that we as a society should excuse harmful behavior if we aren't sure what motivated it?
horseshoe, you are not taking crazy pills. I have otmmed you about 50 times but there were so many xposts in between that what I was otmming got lost in the shuffle.
― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
You've only been in the klan 7 years?
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
OK that's actually pretty funny. That being said, I have A) seen this B) heard a hilarious story about a woman calling two Asian friends of mine "crackers" at a nail salon.
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
?!?!
The stupidity on this thread is seriously mind-boggling.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Fuckin' cracker.
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't want to defend him, I don't even like him. I just don't want to call him a racist without knowing more. He did X, therefore he is Y and all Y are Z. Isn't that the same sort of thinking that led to lynchings in the first place?
The tape makes him look pretty guilty, but when I watched it appeared to me that the reaction was so outlandish something must have provoked it. I don't know what, but I noticed nobody's came up with any plausible motive for his behaviour except that he's a barely constrained dyed-in-the-wool racist who just had to see a black man to be tipped over the edge.
Perhaps that's true, but do you manage to hide it on stage every night for all these years?
stop responding to racist trolls like nude spock, stetThis is what I mean! Christ, if you're not in the majority knee-jerk must-be-racist camp, you are a racist? What?
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link